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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #585 on: November 03, 2021, 11:03:38 am »
Just booked appointments for my kids (7 and 11) to get their Vaccination this coming Monday! Feeling real good about that right now.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #586 on: November 03, 2021, 08:55:19 pm »
I just got called by my vaccine trial people - we set up a time for my booster.  I'm ok with that.
What-about-ism is pointless. I like to think most people's responses to such arguments would be, "Yup. That person, who happened to wear the same political jersey I do/did, was totally wrong on that, too."
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #587 on: November 13, 2021, 02:22:06 am »
I am a huge fan of the vaccines. Monoclonal antibodies were a great addition to our arsenal of tools. I think the up and coming pharmaceuticals are another key tool. Merck is coming out with Molnupiravir. Pfizer's Paxlovid might be even better. It is a protease inhibitor, but augmented with an old HIV drug. The combination of drugs should be much better able to avoid the evolution of antiviral resistance.

If these pharmaceuticals are as good as hyped, then there is even less need for a generalized vaccine mandate. I do not think those federal mandates will be upheld by the courts. State mandates might be upheld, but there will be less need for them with effective antiviral pharmaceuticals.

But I have have been overly hopeful before.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2021, 02:24:31 am by Jason »
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #588 on: November 13, 2021, 07:33:51 am »
Aaaaand in the kingdom of the Netherlands we are back in partial lockdown. 
Tomorrow is the primary program. Every living family member shows up.  How 1.5 distancing is going to happen is a mystery.

We have opted for remote attendance.  I think I need all my healing energy for my poorbold nerves and muscles.

I sure do want my life back.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #589 on: November 13, 2021, 09:20:44 pm »
Ok, got my booster dose.  I'm in the part of the study that gives half a normal dose as booster, to see what happens.  Geez - the Moderna folks are very concerned about the instances of myocarditis and pericarditis from the vaccines and booster.  I'm signed up for like three blood draws over the next two months, with 2-3X the normal phone check-ins.  They told me most of the vaccine-caused inflamed heart issues are occurring in younger men and boys, so it's doubtful anything will happen to older me. 
What-about-ism is pointless. I like to think most people's responses to such arguments would be, "Yup. That person, who happened to wear the same political jersey I do/did, was totally wrong on that, too."
-Taalcon
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #590 on: November 14, 2021, 12:43:59 am »
Someone in my family with a stable federal job he's had for many years and several mouths to feed is probably losing his job soon out of refusal to get vaccinated. I just don't get it.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #591 on: November 14, 2021, 03:11:11 am »
Jen, there is no other option like daily testing or whatever?   What about people who cannot for a serious health or confirmed faith reason?

I think but do not know the only mandated shots are for health workers here.  That makes sense since they already are short handed and over stretched.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #592 on: November 14, 2021, 09:49:25 am »
The government is playing word games. They are granting "exemptions" for religion or health, but only rarely are they granting "accommodations", which means making arrangements for someone to continue working, which would be weekly testing and mask wearing, or working in a place without interactions with others. If there is no accommodation, then you are still fired, but they can say they didn't violate your rights, because they granted an exemption.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #593 on: November 14, 2021, 06:25:17 pm »
Well, it's nice that someone had enough money to fund the lawsuits required to preserve the rights of workers:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-appeals-court-halts-biden-administrations-vaccine-requirement-delivering-policy-a-major-blow/ar-AAQE2Dh

Unfortunately, so many overreaches by many entities require this type of legal action.  Sure, your rights are your rights.  Go ahead and try to assert them.  It will only cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #594 on: November 18, 2021, 01:00:03 am »
How effective are the Covid-19 vaccines against death? Pretty darn good. How effective are they against infection in the first place? Still pretty good, even with the delta variant. This study from Texas breaks down the real world results of the vaccines by age and effectiveness, both from Jan 15 - Oct 1, as well as during their delta surge in September. I like this channel for honest information. You'll see that the vaccines are not perfect, but they do much more good than many of the vaccine deniers are giving them benefit for, who are claiming that vaccines are useless or ineffective, or do not stop transmission at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWMkeMA3sfA&t=909s
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #595 on: November 25, 2021, 04:35:10 pm »
Prevention: Masks for droplets, high ventilation for aerosols, highly effective vaccines.
Early treatments: monoclonal antibodies, Pfizer's Paxlovid/Ritonavir, and Merck's Molnupiravir.
Late Treatments: Dexamethasone, proning.

We do have the tools for combatting this pandemic. I think all of the emergency powers should be given up very soon.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #596 on: November 25, 2021, 10:44:21 pm »
Someone we know had a heart issue and had to be put in intensive care. He was there for some weeks. Covid patients needed intensive care so he was moved to 'lower care' to anithrt hospital. Got a brain hemorrage the next day. Moved to a third hospital, specialized in those. Not in a good shape though heart now operated. Got to wonder if it would not have happened if he hadn't been moved. Things like this makes one angry.

We're tightening restrictions again.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #597 on: November 26, 2021, 12:11:48 am »
My guess is that the blood thinners he was put on for his heart issue made his brain bleed more likely to happen.

I think my current calmness about Covid-19 is that our delta wave peak happened in September. Our peak has been slow to subside, but we are in a much better place than we were back then.

Florida has had one of the lowest rates for a few months now, but earlier in the summer they were the talk of the town for their peak, much of that talk political.

Now Michigan and other upper midwest states are having peaks. I suspect that the northeast (New York) will have a surge in cases in December.

Germany, Austria, and a few other places are having their own surges.

These are localized waves, which keep the whole thing going.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #598 on: November 26, 2021, 09:59:34 am »
Jason, it is possible. He was waiting for angioplasty, but it was not the only thing. In normal situation he would have stayed in the intensive care.
 
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #599 on: November 26, 2021, 09:07:44 pm »
A person just posted on our community FB page: "Can anyone recommend a local doctor who doesn't push vaccines or antibiotics?" I so wanted to respond in about a dozen different ways, but I didn't, because I go to church with this person. There's a homeopath in a nearby city who calls herself a "doctor" (but no medical degree) that I could post about. But, I don't want this person to just waste money.
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