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Re: Men standing guard
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2019, 09:46:21 pm »
In the meantime...
All grown-ups were once children...but only few of them remember it. ― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, "The Little Prince."
 

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Re: Men standing guard
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2019, 09:54:11 pm »
In the meantime, we can be safe, teach safety tips to BOTH genders, and don't just act like it doesn't exist BUT ALSO don't just shrug our shoulders and say, "oh well, gotta keep up the status quo because change is hard and takes a long time."  Because every minute that we do that feeds the perception of vulnerability that attracts the villains. 
 
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Re: Men standing guard
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2019, 10:02:46 pm »
Changing our own perception isn't the problem. Changing the perception of predators--that's the challenge.

<Crossing threads here with a little snark...>

Maybe we should have a policy allowing open carry for women in church to show that a male presence is not needed ;)
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Re: Men standing guard
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2019, 10:16:15 pm »
However...a predator acts on perception of vulnerability. [...] They only care about perceived weakness and risk.

Perception is the word of the hour here. 

Did I mention the Orlando thing that happened in the mid'80's?   There were a bunch of serial rapes happening in Orlando, Florida.  Then, someone organized a gathering in a park to train women how to use firearms and permits.  This was quite the radical idea in the 1980's, and the result was highly publicized.  Led all the local news outlets, radio stations were talking about it, newspapers. 

An impressive number of women showed up, many with guns in their handbags they'd never fired before.  The hungry cameras ate up all the scenes of women handling firearms.

The results were immediate - rape in Orlando dropped to near-zero overnight, and rapes in towns nearby picked up almost to the level that was happening in Orlando. 

I don't present this as any sort of point in favor of more guns.  I don't believe it produced any sort of long-term solution.  But it does indeed illustrate what dyany and Roper are talking about.  Perception matters.
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