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Jacaré

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"He was old, Ephraim. He was 52."
 
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 10:25:43 pm »
Saw this coming three years ago.  Honestly, I thought it would happen sooner.  I guess the gradual approach was the most merciful.
 
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 10:41:55 pm »
Either that or it took this long to determine what the new programs are going to look like.
 
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2018, 11:49:17 pm »
I think they have been working on a lot of things the past few years, but they need to roll all of it out slowly so as not overwhelm local leadership. They are the 'watchmen' on the tower and I'm sure the Lord has shown them things that are coming....these changes are to prepare all of us for what we will be facing as a Church and individuals/families. I have noticed that a lot of the new teaching is more individual prep based. In other words, we need to come to church prepared to share and learn from each other. No more being spoon fed because we are too lazy to do our own reading.
 
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 02:01:12 am »
I have noticed that a lot of the new teaching is more individual prep based. In other words, we need to come to church prepared to share and learn from each other. No more being spoon fed because we are too lazy to do our own reading.

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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 11:24:42 pm »
Surely under works for a while.  I believe the BSA was aware before allowing girls.  Knowing their numbers would drop considerably, it was time to find a new source of warm bodies.

My biggest concern is isolating our youth in an entirely LDS youth program.  BSA provided camps and activities for LDS YM that had them interacting with boys outside their religion.
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2018, 01:41:44 am »
I see the concern Curlybat in some areas, but for most of the world wide church this is not a problem one bit. Maybe the parents just need to step up to provide opportunities to interact with people not of our church. And anyone who wants can still be doing scouting.
 
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2018, 03:59:39 am »
curlybat,

I agree with Cook. I, my son, and a great many UK saints grew up with no scouting. I was in two youth orchestras (violin in one, percussion in the other), a brass band (tuba), an amateur dramatic society and of course school. Plenty of opportunity to interact with non-members - at most I was one of four LDS in my high school.

There have been LDS Scout groups, from time to time, in the UK - but nothing on any great scale.
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 01:23:43 pm »
My view is colored by my experiences in scouts. During the last couple of decades I believe that the church has been heavily focusing on improving the various young women's programs, trying to get that up to par with the scouting program for the young men. In the process, the young women's programs have actually become much better than the young men's scouting programs. Severing the ties with the Boy Scouts will allow the young men's programs to try and catch up with the young women's programs.
 

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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 06:49:23 pm »
It may be true that young men can continue to participate in scouting through non-church scout units, but the reality is it's not going to happen, at least not in any significant numbers. Scouting will now have to compete for the boys' attention, along with church, school activities, sports, band, and so forth. Up until now scouting hasn't had to compete with church, because scouting was (and for the next year and a half, still is) church.
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2018, 11:04:55 pm »
Well, today I have received emails from my bishopric and from my stake young men's presidency instructing everyone to continue in the current scouting program for the next 18 months.  Seems like local leadership, at least here in my Utah stake, is concerned that boys and families will immediately start abandoning the program.
 

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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2018, 11:12:07 pm »
A very real concern.  It is hard to remain dedicated and active in a program that is going bye bye in 18 months.  I would really like to see how the friends of scouting fundraising does between now and the end.
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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2018, 03:29:06 pm »
If the world were to end tomorrow (18 months from now), would you still plant a tree?
 

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Re: Church severing ties with BSA
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2018, 07:00:23 pm »
If the world were to end tomorrow...would you still plant a tree?
Nope. Because I just got done pruning my trees this morning. Instead,  I would go get ice cream with my kids.  Rowley's Red Barn has some delicious homemade Key Lime Pie ice cream. Mmm.....
 
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