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« Reply #195 on: January 05, 2019, 07:23:39 pm »
"The Real Roots of American Rage" https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/charles-duhigg-american-anger/576424/

I read this today and thought it might inform this thread.
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« Reply #196 on: January 05, 2019, 08:17:31 pm »
Thanks for the link to the article, PNR. A few thoughts:

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Harvard Business School devoted a course to using anger in negotiations. “There were papers and studies explaining that the way to unite your company is by getting them angry at a common enemy,”

Militaries have been doing this for as long as...well...there have been militaries. Politicians do this as well as military commanders: Unite your base by identifying an enemy--a threat to security.

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When we scrutinize the sources of our anger, we should see clearly that our rage is often being stoked not for our benefit but for someone else’s. If we can stop and see the anger merchants’ self-serving motives, we can perhaps start to loosen their grip on us.

Amen.

 
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« Reply #197 on: January 07, 2019, 01:56:10 am »
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When we scrutinize the sources of our anger, we should see clearly that our rage is often being stoked not for our benefit but for someone else’s. If we can stop and see the anger merchants’ self-serving motives, we can perhaps start to loosen their grip on us.

Amen.
Double amen.
 
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« Reply #198 on: January 18, 2019, 01:44:32 am »
I see no one has posted on this thread for awhile. Are we just all totally, completely, terminally fatigued?  :(

I am friends with many federal employees, & at the moment I care more about them than about the babies in Congress & the White House. Political disagreements can be resolved by adults if they put resolving them ahead of any personal agendas or feuds. I am so fed up with Trump, Pelosi, McConnell, & the whole screaming bratty kindergarten full of them, their stubbornness & refusal to honor the promises they made both while campaigning & while raising their right hand to take their oath of office. AFAIAC, they all should be ashamed to hold any public office & consider themselves patriotic Americans. Better not say any more. ::)

** Goes off in a corner & picks up one of the cats. Dogs & cats are good for our mental health & help keep our blood pressure down.  8)  **
 
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« Reply #199 on: January 18, 2019, 01:17:39 pm »
Dogs & cats are good for our mental health & help keep our blood pressure down.  8)
We raise turkeys, and I have a video somewhere with shennanigans.

Me: "Everybody say 'Make America Great Again!'"
Turkeys: [muted blerp blerp noises]

Me: "Everybody say 'Obamacare'!"
Turkeys: GOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLE!!!!!!
 
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« Reply #200 on: January 18, 2019, 09:02:49 pm »
the whole screaming bratty kindergarten full of them
At least, Kindergarten kids are done screaming and being bratty after a few minutes. Then they're friends again. They don't go around the school taking everybody else's lunchboxes.
 
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« Reply #201 on: January 19, 2019, 02:15:02 am »
At least, Kindergarten kids are done screaming and being bratty after a few minutes. Then they're friends again. They don't go around the school taking everybody else's lunchboxes.

Where is that ROFL graemlin that was so popular at Old Nauvoo?  :D
 

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« Reply #202 on: January 19, 2019, 09:09:55 am »
I agree Curelom, well said. We have quite a few families in our world that are impacted. It is so frustrating to me to see how this type of shutdown is being allowed. I do not understand what happened to the checks and balances system in this country. Are these judges who are allowing people to continue to work without being paid being bribed? I have to wonder. I do feel in the last few days I've seen more strongly worded articles that it needs to end and people standing up for some of the wrong doings. I do not understand why these air traffic controllers and other personnel are required to work without pay, seems completely illegal to me.
I I'm so tired of the lack of compassion and someone in comments that I see in other news pages that I follow. A lady of my neighborhood is actually starting a furlough
Food pantry for people in our neighborhood still have it impacted and my neighborhood is a super nice neighborhood! I'm curious to see what will happen in the speech today at 3 Eastern Time. Hope this resolves soon, but I do agree with you that they should be able to normal fashion.

Do we have any noodles that are not able to work due to the shutdown?[
 
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« Reply #203 on: January 19, 2019, 09:42:15 am »
RayB from Old Nauvoo is a government contractor. He works with radar systems for the Air Force. In the past, he has been furloughed during government shut downs. I suspect that's the case now. I know he has kids at home.
 
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« Reply #204 on: January 19, 2019, 10:51:47 am »
Hope he and others are ok.
 
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« Reply #205 on: January 19, 2019, 11:49:48 am »
My Branch President is on furlough. BUT as he stated to all of us over the pulpit,
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Sissy, our sons and I Thank our Heavenly Father for giving us through our prophets the revelation of Food Storage and Preparedness. We listened, counseled with our Bishop when we were first married oh so many years ago, and put away 20% of our gross income into Emergency Savings as well as paying not only our 10% tithing but also a *Generous* Fast Offering. During this time of *In The World* unrest, we will be more than fine. We figure we have enough cash reserves to pay utilities for approximately 2 years, our home is debt free, property taxes will be paid for those two years, we have food reserves to last us about 6 years, and as for fresh vegetables Sissy learned how and what to sprout year round here at an RS Evening meeting. We also have a *Petty Cash* reserve to pay for gas for the cars, personal incidentals for several years. Now, if there are any of our newly baptized members, new investigators here who need a helping hand ....


We were concerned about Hubby's Son as he is contracted to the US Gov. Hubby called him, asked, and was told that his company isn't compacted by this - the contract they have is solid and the money has already been paid. No one else in our family + extended family is affected.

Now, since I am widely known as stepping outside of the box and boldly speaking my mind I told husband well before our Branch President stood up and told the congregation they were okay. I said regarding him & family: ME: He was born in the covenant, as was his wife and their two teen children. Both have stressed their testimonies of Food Storage and Emergency Preparedness. IF they have been telling the truth - IF even 1/4th of the two double car garages is filled with food storage AND emergency preparedness, and if they have even utilized 1/16th of the acre they own as a vegetable garden, then they should be okay regarding food for the next several months if not years.

As for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, HAD they heeded the words of God's living prophets regarding Food Storage only, they should be okay for a minimum of 3 months, or 6 months or at the most 1 year. Isn't this one of the Calamities, reasons the prophets have warned us about as they have told us to prepare our food storage/emergency preparedness??? Not just to survive tsunamis, hurricanes, typhoons, floods, earthquakes, but for the (these are MY words) stupidness and follies of our individual government heads?

Personally, if our SS Checks are not held back, we will be able to pay bills. We have food storage that will feed us, and that we will thrive on for approximately 9 months. My mini vegetable garden kept getting invaded by the local feral cats, raccoons, and river rats. So I planted flowers and turned my efforts to sprouting instead. Discovered that Hubby absolutely loves sprouted radishes, carrots, alfalfa, broccoli, etc., etc. on sandwiches and as salads. Sprouted lentils, dry beans, mung beans made into soups using from the many, many cans of diced tomatoes in my food storage, and freeze-dried chicken made into a hearty soup.

For those who are impacted by this, who are not LDS, many banks are offering interest-free 90-day loans to help tide them over. Don't know if any food banks are gathering in more food to help them or not. Since I am not in the grocery business anymore, don't know what the store chains are now doing with their out-dated but still totally edible foods.


Edited just now because of spelling & grammar errors.
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« Reply #206 on: January 19, 2019, 07:43:28 pm »
I once did 6 months of unemployment.  The combination of the tech bubble and the telcom bubble bursting just did me in.  My wife was in the middle of a complicated and dangerous pregnancy at the time, seeing a specialist on top of her gyn/OB, and having weekly ultrasounds.   I took the first job I was offered (which is a condition of unemployment insurance), even though it offered no health insurance.  Man, those were the days!

We got by, largely because we had been following the church's counsel on provident living (a few years before the term was coined) for years, and had a reserve saved up, had always minimized debt, lived (mostly) within our means.  And also because of a generous Mom's group who volunteered 20+ different mommies to watch kid #1, so daddy could go to work and momma could stay on her bed rest to give protokid #2 the best chance to grow to term.  Also our Bishop just showed up unasked-for with a ton of Christmas and an envelope with some hundred dollar bills.

Yes indeed, it stinks to have your ability to make a living for your family kicked in the teeth by forces outside of your control.
 
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« Reply #207 on: January 19, 2019, 08:30:50 pm »
My Branch President is on furlough. BUT as he stated to all of us over the pulpit,
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Sissy, our sons and I Thank our Heavenly Father for giving us through our prophets the revelation of Food Storage and Preparedness....  As for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, HAD they heeded the words of God's living prophets regarding Food Storage only, they should be okay for a minimum of 3 months, or 6 months or at the most 1 year....



It's all well & good if everyone can be prepared for a 3-month, 6-month, or longer siege. And those who can't - yeah, they aren't heeding the word of God & the prophet, yeah, they had years to get this done. But many people cannot achieve that level of preparedness for various reasons, & through no fault of their own have to stretch paychecks from one month to the next. And then, as N3uroTypical said, someone comes along & yanks the rug out from under them. This includes many federal employees, who are typically paid less than state or local employees for comparable work but still have to pay the rent in NYC, SF, or other expensive regions. Reality is a b**** :(
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« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2019, 03:51:06 pm »
Looks like the bell rang for round one, everyone to their corners for a breather.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47007081

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Speaking on day 35 of the shutdown in the White House Rose Garden, Mr Trump said the agreement would fund the government until 15 February.

He said federal workers affected by the political imbroglio, whom he called "incredible patriots", would receive full back-pay.

Mr Trump also said he had decided at this time not to resort to "a very powerful alternative" - an apparent reference to declaring a national emergency.
 

 

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