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Re: Predictions for the coming General Conference?
« Reply #256 on: November 22, 2019, 06:35:19 pm »
We were told to expect something totally different & unique, & the tidbits are starting to come out to keep us anticipating  8)

My first prediction for April 2020 is that the apostles, presiding bishopric, general organization presidencies, & any seventies or other leaders who will speak to us will convene in Palmyra. They will alternate speaking from the Hill Cumorah, the Smith Farm, and the Whitmer Farm. They will not use the Sacred Grove, to maintain reverence for it, but may have some sort of program there (appropriate music by the Tabbies?) They will broadcast all the sessions from Palmyra, with Church members gathering at stake centers.

Stakes in time zones many hours away from U.S. Eastern time will be encouraged but not required to broadcast it live, in case their people want to experience it in the moment, with rebroadcast fitting their own time zones as well.
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Re: Predictions for the coming General Conference?
« Reply #257 on: November 23, 2019, 09:09:35 am »
This sounds like the perfect opportunity to announce the extension of priesthood ordination to women.  RS and EQ have organizational parity.  The old YW class names have been discontinued, with a temporary structure in place.  Equality between the youth programs.  200 years is an important marker.  Combined meeting....   Maybe... Just maybe...
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Re: Predictions for the coming General Conference?
« Reply #258 on: November 23, 2019, 11:12:43 am »
Going to repost something I speculated on from before. I don't expect it, but seeing the meeting presented that way is fun in light of it:

Funny thing though is that the YW just stepped away from having it be directly analogous to the AP in their structure. They moved away from the 3-orders-by-age grouping.

But... consider this.

In Ye Olde Days,  the office of Priest was what someone was ordained to when they were ordained to "The Aaronic Priesthood", and deacons and teachers just being church offices/"callings"/appendages under its direction. Kind of the relationship of 'ordinance workers' being appendages to 'Temple Presidents', who perform ordinances and their duties under the authorization and direction of those keys. So, Conferring the Aaronic Priesthood, and then being ordained to the office of Priest would have been redundant.

With the Bishop being the appointed President of the Priests, later on, he had the authority to delegate those responsibilities and set apart to those offices.

Now - consider this chain of events:

What if the Temple Experience would supplement or complement what we consider to be the 'Conferring' of the Priesthood Authority?

Think of this - it is announced that upon the age of 12, the Temple endowment is made available for youth. But now, there are two versions - an Aaronic Priesthood portion, in addition to the full Melchizedek Priesthood version.

Brigham Young stated in the past he contemplated doling the endowment out in two portions, an AP version, send youth out to show themselves faithful to what they were given, and then later in life come back for the full MP version. Never ended up doing it. But think of it in terms of the latest rhetoric:

Consider the changing/consolidating of the Clothing portion in the most recent changes to the presentation. What if there was a youth version for young men and young women in which they were clothed in one variety, and told what they were then prepared/authorized to officiate in?

And then that pronouncement was given a practical, outside of the Temple application?

At this stage, I would still see males being given specific offices with specific keys. (Deacons, Teachers, Priests, Elders, High Priests), but young women being prepared to officiate in the ordinances of the Aaronic Priesthood, under the direction of keyholding Presidents of those quorums.

Adult women who are prepared to officiate in the ordinances of the Melchizedek Priesthood would be authorized to participate in blessings, free-range just like Elders are now, but also confirmations under the direction of the presiding High Priest in the ward.

The structure is there. The precedence and model (Temple Presidents authorizing endowed women to perform Priesthood Ordinances) is there.

Church teaching and structure (along with the divine go-ahead) is all that is needed for outward application, as is wider availability of temples. And President Nelson has gone so far as stating that smaller, less expensive versions would be forthcoming, that they would "scale down the temples to fit the needs wherever we go'." -  Some had suggested that portions of some Stake Centers could even be set apart and arranged for the purpose, much like Stake Centers that are used for Temple Dedications are temporarily treated like a Temple. Sort of reminiscent of the Utah Endowment House, set apart just for work for the living, for those who cannot access a fully functional temple set apart for work for the dead as well.

They could do this and truthfully declare that the Doctrine had not changed. This would NOT mean, at this stage in the game, that women would be Deacons, Priests, Teachers, or Elders, but would be acting in the authority of one, and would not have presiding keys.

Anyway, just a thought looking at everything as it's unfolding, and looking at a bigger picture.

I don't think it's practical that this will be put into practice by April, but who knows with President Nelson's pace.


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