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New teachers councils thread
« on: March 16, 2017, 01:37:06 am »
A question to those of you who have attended the meeting. What have you spoken about?
 

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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 01:45:57 am »
nothing. one session was taken over by a sister with a giant bee in her bonnet about teaching only in the maunual aand the other session was a limp class style awkward session that had no real point. I think the coordinator is on holiday so gratefully, no time wasted lately.

I love the videos and support materials on the church website. very good.
 

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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 03:22:39 am »
Everything. We read a chapter from the manual and discuss it among us. This coming Sunday the part we are to read is “Take Advantage of Spontaneous Teaching Moments” in Part 2 in the “Teaching In The Savior’s Way” booklet. Please review as all are invited to participate.
Starting:
https://www.lds.org/manual/teaching-in-the-saviors-way/part-2-teach-by-the-spirit/take-advantage-of-spontaneous-teaching-moments?lang=eng

Pray before reading it and banish the adversary. Read it. Pray again and often. Then when you go to the council, participate. Be positive and work dang hard to banish the negativity.

Teaching in the Savior's Way - Read the manual, repeatedly and prayerfully.

I'd like to ask all a question: How many have read and used Teaching, No Greater Call? https://www.lds.org/languages/eng?lang=eng  scroll down to Sunday School, the pdf manual is there. The difference between Teaching In The Savior's Way, and Teaching, No Greater Call  is that in the latter it is pretty much all laid out for you. Pick a page and repeat it almost verbatim.

One thing that our Stake Sunday School President stated at our last  council: Never allow anyone to play Devil's Advocate. When you are in the house of the Lord, there is NO ROOM FOR THE ADVERSARY.

We are at a point where the members who attend are asking for a topic to be done for the next month. We only have a few auxiliary presidents and councilors who have not attended, ever. Come this Sunday, our Stake SS President will be there again, along with our Stake President and they are going to ask those few members why they haven't attended and to invite them to attend. They really don't want to make it mandatory - since the First Presidency didn't make it mandatory.

But stop and think about it. The First Presidency set it in motion. Thus it must be important. It is Church Wide


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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 12:04:21 pm »
Loving the student. Dealing with disruptions. Feeling like you need to teach every thing in the manual. How to prepare to teach. Sharing with other teachers what works when teaching specific groups of kids. How much class discussion their should be. ..
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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 12:21:34 pm »
I'm asking because I've asked our Primary teacher have experienced them. We noticed some did not attend but just stayed in the hallway. Many said they feel they don't get anything out of it (for their calling). I haven't been able to attend, one in our presidency has a small baby (and a toddler) and they've been sick a lot. It's hard for us to get other adults to attend when the teachers are gone so we have had to be with kids.
When I read about the programme I thought it was great, because it a struggle to get teachers come to an extra meeting. And the topics are great. I do get the email they send almost weekly as preparation and as a reminder of what was talked/taught. The issues they cover have been background historical info for adult Sunday school. I understand the adult Sunday school teachers appreciate it. The Sunday school president knows about this stuff. But it gives nothing to our teachers. I brought this up in an email, being a counsellor responsible to the teachers. The bishop let me know that ideas for topics/ what people would like to discuss about has been asked in Ward Council. Our president is not good with attending those or remembering what was asked. So I see part of this is our fault. Sunday school president suggested we could think about the topics and I could come and do the teaching/leading discussion a few times and of course everyone else also could attend.

While I am a professional teacher, responsible for teaching in Primary, have had the calling of teaching the teacher development lessons when we had those and actually doing it would be no big deal really, and I should have been participated, I feel this would not be 'my job' and adding extra to a burdensome calling already just doesn't feel good. And we just simply need to have all the adults present when the teachers are gone...

I feel it would be more of their job to follow the guidelines in the pamphlet...
 

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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 12:44:49 pm »
....

I'd like to ask all a question: How many have read and used Teaching, No Greater Call?

...

One thing that our Stake Sunday School President stated at our last  council: Never allow anyone to play Devil's Advocate. When you are in the house of the Lord, there is NO ROOM FOR THE ADVERSARY.

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I have read much of "Teaching..."   After Roper talked about it I also made sure to share what he said in one of our teacher's councils.

I think we need to be very careful with the devil's advocate idea. While I do agree with the SP I also feel a lot of people would assign that term to people it doesn't belong to: EVERY person who talks about women in the church and their responsibilities. Some people, yes, will play the devil's advocate on this, but many will have good and wise ideas. Or EVERYONE who shares truths about Church history. Again some will be there as a devil's advocate, but some won't. A lot of it has to do with the intention of the student and that is not always understood right away or sometimes ever.Sometimes it is a misunderstanding of the person we assume is the devil's advocate.
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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 12:50:23 pm »
I agree with Patty Rain. From the perspective of many of my friends, those teachers who have denied discussion which may bring up ideas that can be grey or different have indeed been devil's advocates in their well intended actions.
 
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Re: New teachers councils thread
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 02:55:06 pm »
Thank you so much for this discussion.  Last week, I was called to the Sunday School presidency. One of my responsibilities is to plan and lead teachers councils. So I'm trying to get up to speed.  Your comments here have been enlightening.

On playing "Devil's Advocate": There is a difference in seeking for knowledge and in playing devil's advocate.  I think one involves sincere questions based on the person's honest desire to know the truth, while the other involves asking questions to stir up controversy or to selfishly appear erudite. The key difference is motivation. However, unless one has the spirit of discernment, it's problematic to assume another person's motivation.  I never want to shut down sincere question; however, I understand clearly how playing devil's advocate ruins the learning experience for other people. I think the most productive response is to examine the consequences of a person's questioning approach--is it leading to further light and knowledge (which all good questions do) or is it causing contention?  Is the contention actually coming from the confrontational nature of the questions, or is it coming from somebody else who wants to respond that their way of understanding is the only True Way approved by the Church?  I don't think we should shy away from questions about difficult subjects in the gospel, but this is a council, where teachers learn with each other. No one person gets to dominate the council's agenda.
 
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