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Rough Stone Rolling
« on: March 13, 2016, 08:02:12 pm »
I haven't read this book. I've heard of it, but just in name. I saw it on my brother's bookshelf (the one who's left the Church). How would you classify this book? Is it anti? Is it just a raw biographical?
 

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2016, 12:24:04 am »
Still TheOne and only me who happens to now be curlybat.

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2016, 10:49:16 am »
I've never read it, but I hear the same opinion from both believer and critic: It's very well-researched, scholarly, and relevant.  I have yet to meet the person who has read it, no matter on which side of the aisle, who discounts it.
What-about-ism is pointless. I like to think most people's responses to such arguments would be, "Yup. That person, who happened to wear the same political jersey I do/did, was totally wrong on that, too."
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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2016, 02:32:15 pm »
The author, Terryl Givens, is the person who with his wife wrote The God Who Weeps.
 

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2016, 04:49:47 pm »
I thought the author was Richard Bushman?
 

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2016, 08:37:02 pm »
The author IS Richard Bushman, not Givens. I knew Brother Bushman when he lived in my ward when I was a teenager. He's been a bishop and stake president. He is one of the most mild mannered and scholarly and wonderful men I've known. In my opinion the book is very good. Bushman was a highly respected historian with early America as his specialty. I highly recommend it.
 
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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2016, 09:55:19 pm »
Ouch! My bad (very, very bad  :(). Indeed, it is Richard Bushman, a distinguished faithful LDS scholar. I should have remembered because Iíve read parts of the book.
 
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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2016, 12:24:58 pm »
Of course, Given's book is also very good.
 

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2016, 06:22:23 pm »
I have read it and think it is a very good book. He puts all the history in and is quite blunt about some things. I would recommend that everyone read it.
 

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2016, 03:59:55 am »
I debated on reading it when I found out about it. It's still on my list. There is nothing that I have heard that was in it that I hadn't known about, but then it seems I know more than our other board friends say they knew. 

I haven't read it because there are some people who have struggled with it and when I thought of doing it the Spirit let me know it was ok for me to read it,  but it would be wise to put in scripture time better than I was doing before reading it.  After awhile I forgot about it.  At this point I have several other books in front of it and keeping nudging their way in front so who knows when I will get to it.
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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 02:27:27 pm »
Those who believe that our study of history should only be about faith-promoting positive stories without any messy facts probably wouldn't like the book.  If you want a book written by a faithful member of the church who tries not to sugarcoat the facts, you might like it.
 

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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 03:37:24 pm »
Bro. Bushman has said that in retrospect, he wished he'd spoken more about the multiple versions of the first vision.   His discussion of polygamy is not nearly as complete as Brian Hales trilogy on the subject.   He writes in the beginning that  writing the book strengthened his testimony of Joseph Smith.

But he deals with the entire history, and he doesn't pull punches.   And the history that some learned in Sunday School and at home did not include all the warts and bruises, meaning you will learn things that you never learned in church.   So there have been readers who have thought it was anti.

It is also long, very detailed, and I've used it more to look up specific facts using the index of names about specific incidences, than a straight read through.
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Re: Rough Stone Rolling
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 04:14:06 pm »
If you are at all interested in beginning an in depth study of Church History, RSR is definitely THE book to begin with. A fantastic overview, and it can also be a wonderful springboard for other works going into more depth. It also is essential groundwork for understanding further developments. IE, if you're going to understand the Early Utah Era of the Church, being familiar with some of the details of Joseph's history will add much needed context.

One of my favorite followup books for a bit of a deeper dive is "Hearken O Ye People: The Historical Setting of Joseph Smith's Ohio Revelations." This book is amazing.


And I also agree with pnr that, the best deep dive on Joseph Smith and Plural marriage is Hales' Joseph Smith's Polygamy. (Although I'd mainly recommend his first 2 volumes on HISTORY. His third volume (THEOLOGY) trying to explain his understanding of Joseph's theological framework is, in my opinion, substantially problematic, and far more speculative than the straight-forward and exhaustive documentary work of the history volumes.)
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