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Re: masks in church
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2020, 07:02:05 am »
Yesterday was my husband's birthday. Yesterday he got fired. He told me he was ready to go against his firmly held beliefs about masks and agree to wear one when the boss became condescending and dismissive. At that he chose to not give in...

What if they both had agreed to disagree, swallow a tiny bit of pride, recognize that both of them might be partly right & partly wrong & no one gets their way all the time, & peacefully coexist? Now Mr. Sparky is out of a job & Mr. Boss is minus an employee.

I'm with Jana. Prayers for both of you... but golly, just golly.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2020, 11:35:59 am »
Iím so sorry, Sparky. Additional stress - oy! Prayers from here, too.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2020, 10:28:09 pm »
Sparky, you are in my prayers.  You were so wise to prepare financially. Depression - itís so overwhelming for the person and the family. And so many people are suffering from it. I wish there was a magic pill but perhaps President Nelsonís gift to us today was a spiritual one. 
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2020, 09:22:57 am »
On Thursday our government gave new instructions, effective on Monday. Public gatherings should be limited to 20 people. Though many things are excluded, like schools, day care, worship and pubs, or in general things for children and youth... (the last due to effects on economy). So while the sacrament meeting could be going on,  the Stake decided to move back to video broadcasts. Today was the first and if things improve the first back in person will be Dec 20th, if not, then we'll continue it. Seminary and weekly youth activities continue face to face. It was a good decision.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2020, 09:29:01 am »
Our Stake Conference next weekend is entirely broadcast. The only people in the chapel will be those participating. And the presiding officer, our area president Elder Sabin, is doing so from Germany.

The stake president is changing so the interviews for the stake reorganisation will also be with Elder Sabin over Zoom and our Area Authority in person. Those being interviewed were given the choice of coming to the stake center or using Zoom.

Interesting times. I have no idea how someone wishing to oppose the vote would be able to make themselves known. With three men having to be set apart, I presume their families, or at least wives, will be allowed to be at the chapel.
Don't ask me, I only live here.
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2020, 11:16:21 am »
In our ward, those opposing are asked to contact their local leaders. Which is basically a more private way of dealing with the issues anyway. Some people oppose just to be contrary or because they don't like the person, in which case, if asked, they may not be able to give a valid reason. But if they DO have a valid reason, this method will let them explain, which they would have been asked to do in private after a public opposition anyway.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2020, 12:58:03 pm »
Andrew, we had a new stake relief society presidency and they just started serving, the old presidency did not get formally released for several months. Most new callings people have started serving with a sustaining or setting apart..they have just dove in.
 

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Re: masks in church
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2020, 02:38:11 pm »
Here is a wonder: I just got out of Church, lots of music (thank goodness for talented members) lots of narration, but NO SINGING.
This leads to the question: if we can talk with masks on, why on earth can we not sing?
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2020, 03:38:48 pm »
This leads to the question: if we can talk with masks on, why on earth can we not sing?

I'm supposing it is because when we sing, we inhale & exhale much more vigorously than when we talk with normal volume or pace. And even with a mask on, that's more likely to expel particles that may be infected, either through the mask or out the gaps between the mask & our faces.

I am not a scientist with expertise in either the respiratory system or the physics of air flow, but that's what I would figure.

You're fortunate to be able to go in person. I'm in Northern California, & we are still in cyber church, probably for weeks to come. The state is being overwhelmed by new cases.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2020, 04:07:53 pm »
Curelom is right, and I HAVE read the science. There's a LOT more airflow--force and amount--with singing. It is well documented, especially with this pandemic, that singing greatly increases the risk of infection over speaking.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2020, 09:26:42 pm »
My ward insisting on singing is the reason we won't be attending live church for awhile. We watched the Christmas program on zoom today. Lots of maskless singing.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2020, 11:02:03 pm »
Our SP, who is a medical doctor, announced a halt to all in person church meetings for the next 3 weeks due to the sharp rise in cases among the local members. He will reassess in three weeks to see if the regional numbers start to reverse or not. 
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2020, 04:36:15 am »
In the Bay Area where I live, we have never resumed in-person meetings since March. We have Zoom, but it's tough for people who not only enjoy but for various reasons need in-person interaction. But TMK, most people in our area are managing.

Leaders have been emphasizing ministering, trying to be sure everyone gets some kind of attention. Some wards have been providing special times for sacrament (only) at chapels for single sisters, youth with inactive parents, the newly baptized, some who have small homes & are uneasy opening up their social bubble, or others with no other options.

Some people like going to virtual church. I would rather go in person. But recognizing the health risks, not wanting to take a chance on mine or anyone else's, & having no political or philosophical gripes over what is clearly a public health matter, I'm grateful for technology that lets us have what we have. In 1918, or even 1980, we wouldn't have had these opportunities.
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2021, 05:12:58 pm »
We are back to virtual church after a few months of being able to attend church in person. The government is trying to halt the spread of the virus which is getting out of control. Fortunately, the tech means that we can do everything that we normally do at church apart from sacrament
 
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Re: masks in church
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2021, 07:54:40 pm »
I am surprised/not surprised that we still have in person church.  We have also had zoom except for the brief time the church said no to it.  I'm in AZ which has been in the news recently as the hottest of the covid hotspots.
Time for a change.  I am yungmom, but have wanted a new username for some time.
 

 


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