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Re: March 16–22. Jacob 5–7: “The Lord Labors with Us”
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2020, 01:32:21 am »
We spent our time today focused on Jacob 5.  CrowMan read from a FARMS book on why the olive is such a good symbol for Christ.  We read, we stopped, we discussed.

At the end, CrowDaughter observed that, with all the bad fruit, and tame becoming wild, that the master of the vineyard laid no blame on anyone for it.  As the trees represent humanity, the tame becoming wild is from our own choices.  It’s not like the parable of the wheat and tares, where “an enemy hath done this”.  It’s square on our shoulders, our choices, our agency.
Jump off the cliff and build your wings on the way down.
-Ray Bradbury
 
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Re: March 16–22. Jacob 5–7: “The Lord Labors with Us”
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 01:43:44 am »
I like how the cultivating the vineyard and cutting and crafting relates to our sins and weaknesses etc. Can't just go and destroy everything at once, have to think and be wise and replace the bad with the good etc.
 
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Re: March 16–22. Jacob 5–7: “The Lord Labors with Us”
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 09:52:00 am »
Brant Gardner has made an interesting suggestion - that the chastisements in the early chapters of Jacob lead directly to the confrontation with Sherem in the final chapter.

It's suggested that a key part of what is targeted in those chastisements (riches AND polygamy) would specifically have been those in the trading industry with outsider communities. Part of the unique exports would also have been written copies of (at least excerpts from) the scriptures from the brass plates.

Now consider the traders making contact with outsiders who were unhappy with Jacob and his teachings, and then finding an outsider champion (someone who it is clear has had no contact with or knew personally Jacob - not likely for a resident of the City of Nephi) to come in to humiliate him and to "stand up for them". And what better way than to tear down his chief unique doctrine? If he can discredit him as a fool in that, how much easier to discount his specific chastisement of them?

Gardner suggests some evidence that shows Jacob consistently losing sway and standing with the people throughout the course of the book. This makes the climax all the more interesting.

There's a lot going on there, and makes it very interesting to consider that last chapter of Jacob as very much following a continuous story of cause-and-effect from its very first chapter, and also considering the story from outside the vacuum that we often consider it.

And then consider that in the context of the Allegory, with a constant pattern of good and bad and despair and hope. The whole book is rich, and worth considering as a whole.
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