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General Discussion / Re: Cabin & Porch
« Last post by Curelom on May 24, 2017, 08:22:18 pm »
I've been lurking occasionally but not always signing the guest book. But I have to make sure all is well at the Cabin/Porch & the critters are happy.

* Samples a chocolate chip cookie & adds some lime juice to my ice water. *

We have been having warm weather here, which is why the wading pools are set up. I got new ones when we moved here - the yellow one with the cat & dog design is for, guess who? The green one is for the two-footers.
Home Preparedness and Food Storage / Meat Loaf(s)
« Last post by Iggy on May 23, 2017, 07:27:10 pm »
One of my favorite dinners is meat loaf [ground beef, ground pork, egg, oatmeal, celery, onions, smushed tomatoes, beefy onion soup mix, sometimes mushrooms) all mixed thoroughly together, stuffed into a loaf pan and baked at 350 F for about 1 1/2 hrs or until the center reads Done for beef.

Since I have been on a LOW fat diet, I really don't think meat loaf is still on my diet. I have however broiled lean (93%) ground beef patties. The extra fat drips into the pan off the broiler pan top.

BUT I really miss the mix of ingredients. Sauteed in beef stock onions, mushroom, celery and coarse chopped tomatoes served with it, just doesn't make it. It is good - but not the same.

I was, however wondering if any of you have ever mixed in re-hydreated hash-browns into the meat loaf mix rather than bread or oatmeal and made patties instead?

I prefer oatmeal because it doesn't seem to absorb the fat like bread or crackers do.

Since the Sister Missionaries will be here for dinner on the 26th - I wanted to fix something besides creamy chicken -n- dumplings, beef stew and macaroni/beef/tomato casserole.

Meat Loaf Patties (broiled not fried ) sans the ground pork  :'(  , twice baked potatoes (bake potatoes, chill overnight, coarsely chop-n- toss in Uncle Dan's mix, bake at 350 f for about 40-55 minutes. Now for a vegetable - - -  can't do broccili. One of the sisters is allergic to it. I do have a whole clam shell of baby spinach that needs to be eaten. Could stir fry it up, sprinkle with a bit of lemon crystals and that powdered popcorn butter substitute. I found that I like it on hot green vegetables. Hate it on popcorn, but it works on hot, steaming green vegetables.

So - what do you say??? If I served the above, would you come to dinner??? More to the point, would you eat it all????

Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Christ in the Wilderness
« Last post by pnr on May 23, 2017, 03:27:59 pm »
Masterful.   (Worth submitting to the Ensign, IMHO.)

And having been in the wilderness, you may be able to help someone else who finds themselves wandering there.
General Discussion / Re: What are you watching?
« Last post by Palmon on May 23, 2017, 01:35:42 pm »
Went to see Guardians of the Galaxy.  Much of the humor reminded me of  pre-adolescent male humor and I am so done with crude humor. And the language - a lot of 'sh... '  When the next movie comes out, I'll send hubby with someone that isn't as PG  minded as me.
Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Christ in the Wilderness
« Last post by cook on May 23, 2017, 12:53:55 pm »
Thank you!
Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Christ in the Wilderness
« Last post by palmetto_gal on May 23, 2017, 02:05:22 am »
I needed to read this tonight.  It is balm to a bruised heart.  Thank you. 

(And special props for the Leo McGarry quote from West Wing.)
Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Christ in the Wilderness
« Last post by Palmon on May 22, 2017, 11:24:57 pm »
What a marvalous talk! Thank you for sharing.
Doctrines & Scholarship / Christ in the Wilderness
« Last post by Roper on May 22, 2017, 09:16:56 pm »
Okay, so this is a really long post.  I gave the following talk at a recent Sacrament Meeting.  It came after spending over a year "in the wilderness" struggling with my doubts.  My conviction of Christ never wavered.  However, I was, for most of that year, upset with the church. At one particularly frustrating point, I came dangerously close to resigning my membership and having my name removed.  I'm on my way out of the wilderness, now.  This is an attempt to give some meaning to that experience.

Christ in the Wilderness

Good morning, brothers and sisters.  My topic is Christ in the wilderness.  My text is based on the account recorded in Matthew 4:

1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

I have often wondered why Christ went into the wilderness. My own conclusion is that the wilderness was a study. Artists often do studies before they create their masterpieces.  For example, the sculptor Auguste Rodin made an extensive study of hands.  He sketched hands from multiple angles.  He sculpted hands in clay and made many improvements before beginning the final piece.  He perfected his understanding of his subject and his ability to portray it.  Then, the expertise he had developed through his studies became integral parts of masterpieces which have inspired millions with their beauty and pathos for the past hundred years.

Christ’s masterpiece was the atonement. The companion principles of obedience and sacrifice were perfectly and exquisitely portrayed in Gethsemane and on the cross. I believe the wilderness was a study for that masterpiece. The words of John, as recorded in D&C 93, state:
11 And I, John, bear record that I beheld his glory, as the glory of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, even the Spirit of truth, which came and dwelt in the flesh, and dwelt among us.
12 And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace;
13 And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;
14 And thus he was called the Son of God, because he received not of the fulness at the first.

In Gethsemane, Christ left his disciples and continued into the garden to begin the atonement alone. On the cross, Christ finished alone.  His cry recorded in Matthew 27 echoes through eternity, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Isaiah, speaking messianically in chapter 63, said, “I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me.” Christ learned how to endure being alone through his experience in the wilderness.

The atonement required an eternal sacrifice.  Christ made that sacrifice in the exhaustion of Gethsemane, in the injustice of the trial, in the agony of the scourge, in the mockery of the crowd, in the pain of the nails, and in the debasement of the cross. In the wilderness, he had rejected the temptation to turn stones into bread to relieve his hunger. He had rejected the temptation to use his power to save himself. He had rejected the temptation to unrighteously take dominion over the riches of the world and subject all to his will. He learned how to sacrifice comfort, power, and wealth in the wilderness. Those early lessons in sacrifice helped him prepare for the sacrifice of the atonement.

In the wilderness, Christ responded to each of Satan’s temptations with a reference to God’s law, and with the clear understanding that he, Christ, would obey God’s law.  “It is written…” Christ replied to each temptation.  That commitment to obedience grew into consecration.  Matthew 26 records it in Gethsemane: “…Oh my father, if it be possible, let his cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

In the wilderness, Satan attempted to destroy who Christ is.  Moses understood the role of savior before the foundation of the world and recorded it in Moses 4:

1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan … came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.
2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

There sure are a lot of I’s and me’s in Satan’s proposition. That’s the narcissistic outcome of giving into Satan’s temptation.  If Christ gave in to Satan’s temptation, he would no longer be the Messiah. He would become the tyrant that Satan wanted to be. Not only would Christ be destroyed, but all of God’s plan would be frustrated.  Christ overcame Satan in the wilderness through obedience to God’s law.  Christ overcame sin and death in the atonement by obedience to God’s will.

Matthew records that when Christ had finished his time in the wilderness, he went to his disciple John, who was in prison.  The gospels then proceed to document Christ’s work in building the Kingdom of God.

What does the record of Christ in the wilderness mean for us?

In 1 Nephi 19, Nephi explains why he made plates, and how he chose what to record on the plates.  In verse 23, Nephi states, “I did liken all scriptures unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning.” In that spirit, there are four lessons from the wilderness which we can “liken unto us” so that we can survive when we find ourselves in the wilderness, and so that the wilderness becomes a study for us.

Find Water
Many years ago, I studied ecology at Ricks College. I learned about desert ecosystems. For one activity, I went with my class on horseback into the high desert of Eastern Idaho.  As I observed and studied that environment, I learned that the availability of water is the defining characteristic of the desert.  The plants and animals and insects which survive in the desert have adapted to find and use water. Most plant seeds which are brought in by weather and other means, and most animals which come in from the borders where water is more abundant, die in the desert.

In the account of the Samaritan woman at the well, recorded in John 4, Jesus taught, “But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.” Christ is the living water which will sustain us in the wilderness.  We need to drink daily.  Sometimes, we need to drink even more often to survive.  As one of our most beloved hymns states, “I need thee every hour.”

Be Obedient
In the wilderness, Satan is the apex spiritual predator. Satan will attack when we are weak and alone. Satan will seek to destroy who we are.  So who are we that Satan would seek to destroy us?  We are a covenant people. Our adoptive parents, Abraham and Sarah, made and kept covenants with God.  Our first parents, Adam and Eve, made and kept covenants with God.  We are the covenant children of God.

In Mosiah 18, Alma taught the covenant of baptism:
8 And it came to pass that he said unto them: Behold, here are the waters of Mormon (for thus were they called) and now, as ye are desirous to come into the fold of God, and to be called his people, and are willing to bear one another’s burdens, that they may be light;
9 Yea, and are willing to mourn with those that mourn; yea, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort, and to stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places that ye may be in, even until death, that ye may be redeemed of God, and be numbered with those of the first resurrection, that ye may have eternal life—
10 Now I say unto you, if this be the desire of your hearts, what have you against being baptized in the name of the Lord, as a witness before him that ye have entered into a covenant with him, that ye will serve him and keep his commandments, that he may pour out his Spirit more abundantly upon you?
11 And now when the people had heard these words, they clapped their hands for joy, and exclaimed: This is the desire of our hearts.

That’s who we are. And, we make even more covenants with God in His holy temples. In the wilderness, Satan will attack when we are weak and alone. He will tempt us to break our covenants. He will seek to destroy who we are. Christ taught us that we endure by being obedient.

Phone a Friend
In the wilderness, we will stumble and fall, no matter how strong we are our how well prepared we think we are. Jesus taught the parable of the good Samaritan. In the television series “The West Wing,” the character Leo McGary used a similarly structured story and said it this way:

This guy’s walking down a street when he falls in a hole. The walls are so steep, he can’t get out. A doctor passes by, and the guy shouts up, “Hey you, can you help me out?” The doctor writes a prescription, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a priest comes along, and the guy shouts up, “Father, I’m down in this hole, can you help me out?” The priest writes out a prayer, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a friend walks by. “Hey Joe, it’s me, can you help me out?” And the friend jumps in the hole. Our guy says, “Are you stupid? Now we’re both down here.” The friend says, “Yeah, but I’ve been down here before, and I know the way out.”

“What a friend we have in Jesus!” proclaims the Christian hymn. In the wilderness, when we stumble and fall, Christ will come to help us. He has been there.  He knows what we face.  He knows how to endure and how to overcome.  He knows the way out.  The Good Shepherd will find his sheep, put us on His shoulders, and carry us out.

Go Home
When Christ had finished his time in the wilderness, he went to his disciple, John, who was in prison. He continued his mission to build the kingdom of God.

A few weeks ago, our stake president, Kevin Rhodes, spoke at the funeral of our beloved friend, Joe Beck.  President Rhodes described the joyous reunion waiting for us when we have finished our missions here.  In Luke 15, Christ taught a similar principle in the parables of the lost coin, the lost sheep, and the prodigal son: Loved ones rejoice together when that which was lost has returned.

In the wilderness, we might get the idea that it would be better to not go home. We might decide that we have good reasons for leaving. We might decide that we have gone too far to ever go back.  Christ taught us that there is still work to do, and that there are loved ones waiting with open arms to welcome us back and to rejoice with us.

Throughout our lives, we will often find ourselves in the wilderness.  I hope that we will remember that there are things to learn in the wilderness, and that the wilderness is a study for the masterpieces of our lives.  I hope we will drink often and deeply from the living water of Jesus Christ. I hope that we will be obedient to our covenants that we may endure the attacks of the predator. I hope that when we stumble and fall, we will find the hands of our Friend who will lift us up and carry us out.  I hope that we will return home to rejoice with our loved ones and to continue the work of the Lord.
In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
General Discussion / Re: DNA
« Last post by curlybat on May 22, 2017, 01:48:30 am »
DNA has been a valuable family history tool for me.  I first got involved with it a number of years ago when it was still early.  It helped dispel a family connection that had been thought to be true for some years - so my surname line didn't go back near as far as it did before.  It is good to know the truth and to this day some still can't get go of that connection.

I have used DNA for both our adopted daughters.  It solidified some information for our oldest (now 12, adopted at 8).  She has some strong LDS lines that I was glad to point out to her.  I even took her to a reunion (she happened to have a couple connections in our ward).  It also points to some future possibilities.  I was even contacted by someone who may be the biological brother of her grandfather who was adopted as a baby.

Our youngest adopted whose family history we know very little about, I now know more certainly is Ute, Paiute and maybe even some Navajo.  DNA tests don't determine tribe but the matches point in certain directions.

I recently got my mom to do a DNA test.  She was born in Belgium and so far all her family history has been in Belgium.  She was told by her mother that there was some Spanish family history on her side but it hasn't surfaced yet.  That is still a good possibility according to her DNA but it also showed a lot less Belgian DNA origin than we expected.  There is a mysterious presence of Great Britain that showed up in her DNA origins.  We're suspecting in her ancestry may be some Celtic which ended up in Great Britain.
General Discussion / Re: Cabin & Porch
« Last post by LMAshton on May 22, 2017, 01:30:12 am »
It's been quiet in here! How's everyone doing?

The furballs are fed, watered, and happy, and they've been given lots of affection. They've been visiting me quite a bit in Sri Lanka, except for the day when we had huge rainfall - our floors were entirely too wet for their liking.

We have monsoon blinds on our balcony to provide an additional barrier to slow down the amount of water that comes in. With our balcony doors closed and monsoon blinds down, we still had to squeegee the floor every ten minutes to prevent the water from getting more than four feet in. Because yes, we do have squeegees on a long stick just like brooms - that's what you get in the land of concrete or tile floors. :)

Anyway. Brownies and chocolate chip cookies in the fridge along with lime juice.

I hope you're all doing well. :)
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