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Forum and Member News / Re: JANA IS COMING WHERE? WHEN?
« Last post by Iggy on Today at 02:31:48 am »
Woo Hoo!  Jana is with the Roper clan until Monday.  What an amazing woman. I like her even better in person than I do in virtual Nauvoo :D

Edit: Jana and I collaborated on a Crock Pot full of chili for the ward chili cook off tonight.  We WON for the best traditional chili entry!  She suggested adding bacon fat and a dash of cocoa powder.  I suggested adding Sweet Mesquite seasoning and beef bouillon. The resulting flavors, combined with the tangy tomatoes and smoky dark red chili powder, really blended well. Mmmm...

She is an amazing woman! Oh man, that chili sounds so good!! So you add beans? My Mom made bean-less chili - don't know why, because we ate lots of beans in other ways. Navy bean soup. Home made Boston Baked Beans. Pinto beans with ham hocks/celery/onion. And of course a bit of every kind of dry bean the stores had along with barley, lentils, yellow split pea, ham hocks, ham, and any other left over meat that just wouldn't feed three adults for lunch. Add canned tomatoes, celery, onions, carrots(just a wee bit as they tend to sweeten the pot), and what ever stock Mom and Grandma had made in the last two weeks and stored in the fridge in the back room, and simmer until the rumbling of 6 children and 3 adults tummies is so deafening one has to feed them to silence the roar!
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Forum and Member News / Re: JANA IS COMING WHERE? WHEN?
« Last post by Roper on October 19, 2018, 07:47:50 pm »
Woo Hoo!  Jana is with the Roper clan until Monday.  What an amazing woman. I like her even better in person than I do in virtual Nauvoo :D

Edit: Jana and I collaborated on a Crock Pot full of chili for the ward chili cook off tonight.  We WON for the best traditional chili entry!  She suggested adding bacon fat and a dash of cocoa powder.  I suggested adding Sweet Mesquite seasoning and beef bouillon. The resulting flavors, combined with the tangy tomatoes and smoky dark red chili powder, really blended well. Mmmm...

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General Discussion / Re: Cabin & Porch
« Last post by Iggy on October 19, 2018, 01:57:43 pm »
OK, Iggy, now youíve upset our critters! They were not happy with your talk of poisoning varmints (even if they are varmints). Some of them have befriended wildlife, including raccoons, bats, coyotes, & even bears. We get it that these are pests to you & they are giving you grief, but our critters are sensitive to any bad thing happening to any animal. Some animal lovers here might also be. The critters delegated Punkin & Dreyfuss to deliver a cease-and-desist notice. Itís OK if you want to talk about problem animals, or ways to get rid of them, but Iíll have to put up an out-building for that purpose to keep the peace in the Cabin. We can call it the Mad Room or give it any name everyone likes. If you want the out-building, I can order it tomorrow & have it installed as soon as it arrives.

Why then, knowing it would upset them, did you read it to them?
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General Discussion / Re: Word Game #1 - Using Our "Nice Words"
« Last post by AndrewR on October 19, 2018, 09:13:59 am »
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General Discussion / Re: Word Game #1 - Using Our "Nice Words"
« Last post by Curelom on October 19, 2018, 02:44:20 am »
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General Discussion / Re: Cabin & Porch
« Last post by Curelom on October 19, 2018, 02:36:08 am »
Oh, dear. I hope all of you Cabin neighbors are doing better. Iím sorry to hear about so many aches & pains, illnesses, & discomforts. Youíre in my prayers.

I like train travel, donít do it that often now, but wouldnít be happy if I couldnít do it because of health issues. The long-distance Amtrak trains are nice, if you are in no hurry. Airliners are like jail, with jail food, crummy johns, & no space or privacy. On long-distance trains you can do as Iggy said, walk around, go to the lounge car where there are huge panoramic windows, dine at tables with real linens & silverware or just go to the snack bar for a quickie, & meet people & have *conversations*. For 1 or 2 nights, Iíve found the regular coach seats comfy enough, & have seen people bigger than me in them overnight. People with back problems might want to spring for a sleeping compartment with a bed, but the seats are big with lots of leg room, no breaking the kneecaps of the person behind when you recline.

You meet nice folks on trains. The ambience is more relaxing. More people are leisure riders, not business travelers under pressure who spend the whole trip worrying over the WSJ or an Access database. You actually become neighbors for the day or two you spend together. If you're going to a job interview, wedding, graduation, etc., fly there & return on Amtrak. Itís known for mediocre on-time performance. Iíve been delayed a number of times, but would choose Amtrak only for a trip where I had no schedule to keep.

Yup, there are witches and warlocks, and satanists, and just plain bad people who use the Halloween holiday to do bad stuff, using toilet paper, and more viciously guns and cats.  And I'd say that about 30% of Americans do not, never have seen it as a sweet, benign, fun holiday, either.

Unfortunately, yeah, Halloween can involve bad behavior. When I was a kid, TPíing, window-soaping, or egging was the worst we heard of, unless our parents kept worse things from us (like Satanic rituals with cats). Detroit became infamous for the annual Devilís Night that would include vandalism, shootings, & hundreds of arson fires. Now, I donít want any Satanists, pagans, or witchcraft followers to think I am prejudiced, or stereotyping, but why donít we see this same stuff on Easter, Christmas, Passover, Eid-al-Fitr, or other days important to followers of God?

I happen to be one of that 30% or whatever number who do not like Halloween, & have not ever since I knew of its Satanic & pagan connections. Iím fine with lighthearted fun: family/friends parties, kids in  clever costumes hitting up the neighbors for dentist bait. Itís cute to see kids decked out as cartoon characters, animals, objects, or positive fictional or RL people. Iím talking about Mickey or Minnie, astronauts, lions or frogs, cars or cereal boxes, not ghouls or zombies. Iím a convert, a cradle mainstream Protestant, many of whom have issues with the Satanic or pagan. Iíve attended maybe 2-3 church Halloween parties, & only to bring food. At the last one, I cringed at seeing the church rooms decorated with witches, skeletons, gravestones, & such, & it felt like the Holy Ghost took a break from church that evening.

As for shelters refusing to adopt out black cats, there are varying opinions. Some do, concerned that 1) black cats may be adopted to be used in rituals that harm the cats, even sacrifices, 2) some are adopted as props, dťcor items, or similar uses just for Halloween & may be returned or abandoned later like chicks or rabbits after Easter, or 3) busy holidays can upset animals, & the greater attention given to black cats may stress them more. Other pet experts say thatís hogwash (or dogwash, or catwash :D )

https://www.adoptapet.com/blog/adopt-black-cats-before-halloween/

http://www.vetstreet.com/dr-marty-becker/are-black-cats-in-greater-danger-around-halloween

https://www.petmd.com/cat/seasonal/ct_evr_black_cats_halloween_adoption

If a shelter wonít release them then, it may be over-caution. But if it saves a cat from being an innocent victim, whatís a few more days in stir? And if you fall in love with a shelter animal in October, whatís a few more days until you take it home? Make it clear that you want the animal, do all the paperwork, pay any fees for adoption, health exam, shots, the Fix, etc., get a signed contract to adopt that animal, watch the staff label the cage with your name & pick-up date, & visit your new pal in the shelter a few times to get acquainted until it can join you at home.

So, I will be putting out my recipe of poison to get rid of them. Also I hope to poison the family of raccoons and the bear that is also pooping all over my lot and clawing my shed. NO Curelom, I don't give a crap about poor kitties, poor raccoons or poor bear. THEY are an absolute nuisance here. They carry some of the worst diseases - and the raccoons are undoubtedly rabid. I don't have any pets anymore and since 1989 - I have never left pet food outside. My garbage is left outside in the bin, but I top off each bag with a handful of moth balls. My shed has only tools in it. Haven't a clue why the bear is clawing it.

I am a cat lover. Have always had cats, but I made sure that the ones I had who were indoor/outdoor didn't bother the neighbors. The last 4 cats were indoor only.
As for raccoons. The only good raccoon is a DEAD raccoon!

OK, Iggy, now youíve upset our critters! They were not happy with your talk of poisoning varmints (even if they are varmints). Some of them have befriended wildlife, including raccoons, bats, coyotes, & even bears. We get it that these are pests to you & they are giving you grief, but our critters are sensitive to any bad thing happening to any animal. Some animal lovers here might also be. The critters delegated Punkin & Dreyfuss to deliver a cease-and-desist notice. Itís OK if you want to talk about problem animals, or ways to get rid of them, but Iíll have to put up an out-building for that purpose to keep the peace in the Cabin. We can call it the Mad Room or give it any name everyone likes. If you want the out-building, I can order it tomorrow & have it installed as soon as it arrives.
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General Discussion / Re: Cabin & Porch
« Last post by Iggy on October 18, 2018, 02:07:15 pm »
Can you get up and walk around? I have looked extensively at the availability of train travel here in the US. For years I have wanted to travel West to East on as many of the routes available. Then do the North to South ones. It would take me 5 years to accomplish all of this, and would pretty much eat up my Husband's pension monies.

I would of course have a sleeper, and walk around as much of the train as I could just too keep my bum & legs from becoming bricks of knotted muscles.

I have always thought that trains, all trains, are way better than traveling by autos. Unless of course the auto has plenty of leg room, soft(ish) & ergonomic seats, and comfortable inside temps. My Hubby doesn't believe in *Bells -N-Whistles* when it comes to auto's. Except A/C - living in central AZ for his entire life, when A/C was first introduced in vehicles - he was certainly on board for that!

The two train rides I have had in my life were wonderful. The first was to Nampa ID from Seattle WA. (round trip) The only time I spent in my seat was when I needed a nap. I was 13, and just couldn't get enough of the scenery - outside and inside.

The second time was from Alameda CA to Seattle WA. I was 23. Same thing, couldn't get enough of the scenery. I gave up my seat to a mother with three screaming kids and when I needed to sit, I went into the lounge car. Didn't drink anything stronger than soda pop, but had a blast talking with the people in there and the windows in that car were larger and I could see more.

Today with my aches and pains don't know how I would fare. I feel for you Laurie, knowing that my pains are minor to yours - and yet you keep your head up and march on.
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Mormon Life / Re: Social Media Anger
« Last post by Taalcon on October 18, 2018, 12:44:49 pm »
I made reference to this comic in my Sunday School class on Job! I likened Job's Terrible Comforters to folks who saw a friend's public facebook post talking about how they are suffering, and then commented publicly with lots of justifications on why they probably deserved what they got. Because based on their religious worldview, (and the worldview of Deuteronomy - 2 Kings) that MUST explain what happened. To them, Job was 'Wrong on the internet'. (see also the 'On Being Wrong TED talk I posted a link to above).

Also, on the class on Jonah (in which we talked a little about the genre of satire), I started class off by reading this:
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God Confuses All The Languages Again To Stop Everybody From Arguing Online
WORLDóIn a modern-day repeat of the Tower of Babel narrative, the Lord has reportedly confused the languages of everyone who uses the internet in order to stop all the arguing.
 
The miraculous intervention occurred in an instant, as people around the world suddenly realized their means of communication had been scrambled so as to confound their efforts to flame each other.

A heavenly representative then released the following modern-day revelation, to be added to the end of the Bible, in order to record the event:

And the whole earth was of one internet, and of one online community.

And they said one to another, ďLet us build websites and call them Facebook and Twitter, and we shall argue on them and call each other nazis and make each other miserable and angry.Ē

And the Lord came down to the see the websites which the children of men had built.

And the Lord said, ďBehold, the people is one, and they have all one internet and this they begin to do: just yell and scream at each other and make straw-man arguments in their own image. They are completely useless, and they make me sad. Let us go down and there confound their language, that they may not understand one anotherís speech, and thus stop all the stupid arguing and maybe do something useful with their time instead.Ē

So the Lord confounded their languages and broke Google Translate and the people were unable to use Twitter or Facebook get in pointless arguments with each other. Some then went on to do useful things, though most just watched something off Netflix.

At publishing time, humanity had agreed to begin to work together to figure out their new languages so they could resume arguing again as soon as possible.
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Mormon Life / Re: Social Media Anger
« Last post by dyany on October 18, 2018, 11:30:10 am »
Roper, that's what always ropes me in, too. :/  I try to stay as neutral as possible, find as neutral and as official of a source of correct information as I can, and post the link.  But sometimes I have to remind myself of this:
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General Discussion / Re: New Weird News Thread
« Last post by Sparky on October 18, 2018, 06:26:20 am »
A small plane made an emergency landing a few years ago and came to a stop just inches from the wall of our chapel. It was quite the sight to see. Pilot was ok.
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