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Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: masks in church

« Last post by Sparky on Today at 06:49:19 pm »

Wow, Redd! We never stopped singing, though it was only one verse for quite a while. I'm glad you all can sing again. Sing hallelujah to the Lord!

Latter-day Saint Life / Re: Dr. Julie Hanks

« Last post by Jen on Today at 02:55:33 pm »

Some trivia: her dad is Lex de Azevedo, who was a big name in LDS pop music in the 70's and 80's (he wrote Saturday's Warrior). I had some siblings record and market an album through his label, Embryo Records at the time, and she was also one of the artists. I sang on stage with her when I was 12.

Anyway, I agree that sometimes her things are valuable. Sometimes they make me uncomfortable. I'm fairly feminist, but her flavor leans a little far toward "take down the patriarchy" for me.

Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: masks in church

« Last post by Redd on Today at 02:47:22 pm »

We were given the green light to start singing again!!!! The books were taken out at the beginning of Covid, but our Stake Pres has greenlighted singing if we use our own electronic devices. I have never heard our ward, or at least the near 50% that can attend now, sing so loud.

General Conference / Re: April 2021 General Conference

« Last post by Jana at Jade House on April 11, 2021, 05:10:18 pm »

Yes Andrew, indeed, the Netherlands first constitution dates to the 1500's , the most modern takes its cues from the French, the law system is different from the US and, the government is a constitutional monarchy that behaves in many ways .ike a social democracy.

General Conference / Re: April 2021 General Conference

« Last post by AndrewR on April 11, 2021, 12:28:30 pm »

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lots of governing documents across the world used the US Constitution (notably to break up duties and to assure basic human rights) when they formed their own ruling documents.

But, and probably most notably, not the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. We have been around for quite a bit longer. And little of the US Constitution applies to us with our Constitutional Monarchy and Parliamentary system of Government.

General Conference / Re: April 2021 General Conference

« Last post by Roper on April 10, 2021, 02:49:20 pm »

Yep. It's like all the lessons based on the Family Proclamation about divine roles of mothers and fathers, and almost everyone ignores the part which follows: "In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation." And when those parts are brought up, they are dismissed with, "Well, what that really means is (insert dogmatic interpretation to reinforce exclusive roles.)"

Selection bias is strong in Mormon culture.

General Conference / Re: April 2021 General Conference

« Last post by dyany on April 10, 2021, 01:31:25 pm »

Quote from: Jason on April 06, 2021, 02:02:03 pm

I listened to President Oakes talk last night and didn't really hear anything controversial or groundbreaking as far as church doctrine goes. Perhaps it is an attempt to draw people back who have been practicing their politics with a religious fervor.

Sadly, from what I and some family members have seen, those 'who have been practicing their politics with a religious fervor' cherry picked the statements they wanted to hear and now feel even more justified.

News of the Church / Re: Changes in the handbook

« Last post by dyany on April 10, 2021, 01:21:52 pm »

My guess is that in areas with more sparse priesthood holders (like Europe), they didn't have or enforce that policy because they didn't have the latitude to do so. It was considered more of a 'best practice' kind of thing. And now that SO many are single or divorced here, we have a similar paucity of married, worthy priesthood holders.

General Conference / Re: April 2021 General Conference

« Last post by pnr on April 10, 2021, 09:20:41 am »

Quote from: Jana at Jade House on April 06, 2021, 07:26:05 am

I personally am not really a fan of teaching my aged Dutch sisters the wonders of the sacred American document.

President Oaks was explicit why it was appropriate for the whole church, specifically that lots of governing documents across the world used the US Constitution (notably to break up duties and to assure basic human rights) when they formed their own ruling documents. If I was teaching that talk in a different country of the world, I would show how the 5 inspired things he identified applied in my own country.