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Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Priesthood ordinances done remotely

« Last post by AndrewR on Today at 06:37:50 pm »

I think the nature of the Sacrament requires the "breaking" of the bread as part of the administration of the Sacrament. So, remote blessing is moot.

I understand Taalcon's idea, but "being prepared" and actually able are two different things.

What those words mean is debatable in a presentation the is symbolic.

Jen, I am certain that a prayer offered sincerely, calling on the powers of heaven, will be every bit as efficacious as a priesthood blessing. Especially when added to the prayers of Nauvoodles.

Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Priesthood ordinances done remotely

« Last post by Jen on Today at 06:28:09 pm »

There's a chance my husband has covid-19. I've been watching him sick for over a week and wondering what happens if he gets really, really sick. I can't ask anyone to come give him a blessing.

Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Priesthood ordinances done remotely

« Last post by Roper on Today at 12:32:00 pm »

Good point, Taalcon. I hadn't thought of it that way.

I wonder what the solution would be for families who still wouldn't have someone to bless the sacrament.

Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Priesthood ordinances done remotely

« Last post by Taalcon on Today at 10:40:37 am »

It seems it would make far more less of a doctrinal adjustment to activate the already existing declaration that endowed women are "prepared to officiate in the ordinances of the [Aaronic / Melchizedek ] Priesthood" and grant authorization (like a Temple president does with women Temple Ordinance Workers) than to declare that one need not be physically present for an ordinance to take place. A whole foundation of Temple work (and one might argue the nature of Mormonism) is the physicality of it, so much so that a physical proxy is needed for those who could not receive their ordinances in person. It seems the concreteness of the physicality of being present in ordinances is sort of part of the point.

Would I object to it? No. I wouldn't. It just seems that *waves around broadly* there's already a doctrinally compatible solution that's there's already prescedent for.

We have so many members of the Church who have been declared with authority to be "prepared to officiate in the ordinances of the Priesthood". Would seem to be a FANTASTIC time for the Presiding High Priest to let that preparation be put into practice.

Doctrines & Scholarship / Priesthood ordinances done remotely

« Last post by Roper on Today at 09:50:09 am »

I understand that our current policy is that Priesthood ordinances must be done in person. There is an interesting discussion on "By Common Consent" about liturgical adaptation. With more locations restricting person-to-person contact, and with some places going into lockdown and martial law, I wonder if authorization for remotely blessing the sacrament is on the horizon...

https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/03/12/blessing-the-sacrament-remotely-contagion-technology-and-liturgical-adaptation/

Health and Wellness / Re: Positive Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic

« Last post by Curelom on Today at 05:16:11 am »

Yes, my understanding is that any priesthood ordinance is done only in person. So ward members wouldn't be able to gather "virtually" through a conference call, all with their own bread & water, & have someone at another location bless everyone's bread & water in absentia.

Health and Wellness / Re: Positive Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic

« Last post by CrowGirl on Today at 02:26:17 am »

We were instructed that it must be done in person.

Health and Wellness / Re: Positive Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic

« Last post by Roper on March 27, 2020, 11:47:55 pm »

Can the sacrament be blessed remotely? I've heard of blessings being given over the phone...

Health and Wellness / Re: Positive Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic

« Last post by GoodyScrivener on March 27, 2020, 10:57:11 pm »

In my stake, the sacrament may be blessed at home by a worthy priesthood holder. However, the statewide stay at home order prohibits us from visiting others in person, even for religious purposes. So anyone without a worthy priesthood holder in the home simply must do without the sacrament until the order is rescinded.

There are no broadcasts permitted by my stake presidency (and possibly my area presidency, not certain). We do have a Facebook group for Relief Society and have attempted some semblance of lesson through group discussion there.

Health and Wellness / Re: Positive Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic

« Last post by Palmon on March 27, 2020, 07:15:32 pm »

There was a lot of reporting initially about 'hoarders' and much commentary about how bad they are. The worst of times will always bring out the worst in some people.

But for many, the 'worst of times' gives people opportunities to shine. There are so many good things that individuals and private companies are doing that make my heart soar.

People are making masks for those in need, both individuals and companies. MyPillow, Ecplise International (a mattress company), The Tablecloth Company, Hanes, Los Angeles Apparel and Michael Costello and Karla Colletto Swimwear, Fanatics (make MLB apparel), and the list goes on of private companies switching over to make masks and gowns. As they do so, people that were laid off because of the companies being 'non-essential' are brought back to work.

Dyson and Ford are making ventilators, as are other companies.

Texas Roadhouse and other restaurants are offering free meals to truck drivers.

There are so many good things that people are doing. We can focus on all the bad choices made but I think the good far outweighs the bad. And to top that, all these good things that individuals and companies are doing give us all so much hope. Good always triumphs in the end.

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