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General Discussion / Fathers' Day
« on: June 16, 2018, 05:26:42 pm »
'In honor of Father's Day, TheWrap salutes infamously awful onscreen dads..."


Funny, maybe, depending on your sense of humor, but who thinks this is an appropriate way to observe Fathers' Day? There are enough awful real-life dads (some more correctly called sperm donors) that no one needs to watch TV or movies to see one. And there are plenty of good ones who should be thanked for what they do to raise good, honest, productive young people. Occasionally we even see a father on the big or little screen who isn't either a workaholic who ignores his kids, a bumbling buffoon, or a psychopath. Maybe “The Wrap” will follow up by paying tribute to some of them.

Happy Fathers’ Day to my Dad who is in the spirit world, my grandfathers (I never knew any of you, but I look forward to meeting you eventually), & my uncles. And to all the fathers, stepfathers, grandpas, foster fathers, brothers, teachers, mentors, coaches, religious leaders, scouting or other youth leaders, neighbors, or friends who do whatever you can to train up a child in the way he should go, by precept or example. And thanks to good men who take kids under their wing to fill a bit of the void where a father, uncle, or big brother is missing. God bless you all!

Technical Talk / New alert on old website
« on: May 17, 2018, 05:12:25 pm »
I just got this message when I went to a website I have been using for years.

European Union GDPR Compliance Request
In order for this site to work properly, we need to store small files (called cookies) on your computer. Most websites do this.
Because you are in the EU, we are required to obtain your consent first. Please only proceed if you agree.

I am in the United States. don’t think I am in the EU.

Forum and Member News / Kilauea
« on: May 07, 2018, 01:17:40 am »
Do we have any Nauvoodies affected by the Kilauea eruption? I have friends who have a son on his mission in Hawaii. He was on the Big Island for awhile (that's where the active volcanoes are, & the city of Hilo), but he is now on Oahu (where Honolulu is). The mission president & his wife have been diligent in looking after everyone, & some missionaries are helping with evacuations where residents have been ordered to leave. The entire state is under one mission.

About 30 homes have been destroyed. I haven't been there, but I understand this is not a Vesuvius or St. Helens type of eruption that buries everything & everyone for miles around in an explosive shower of lava & ash. It's more like small eruptions from numerous fissures, where molten lava keeps coming out & engulfing whatever it encounters, burning anything combustible. So archaeologists 1500 years from now will probably find something different from what the Pompeii discoverers found. Pompeii & the neighboring cities were found by people digging for foundations, & volcanic ash soil is diggable. I don't think a lava flow, once it sets, is as easy to excavate, so whatever or whoever is buried in it might stay there for quite some time.

General Discussion / Dear Abby - it's OK to tell kids not to have sex!
« on: April 13, 2018, 02:33:50 am »
Just my two cents worth: much of what needs fixing about the moral state of the society we live in can be summarized in these two recent “Dear Abby” letters. In the first one, the worker’s attitude, & in the second one, both the girl’s actions & Abby’s reply. In the first, Abby finds it appropriate to give advice about the right or wrong of what the employee did, & most of us would probably do the same. In the second, she takes care not to judge what the girl did & offers no moral or practical advice. Can it be that she is afraid to tell a teenager to go easy on the sex or bed hopping?

DEAR ABBY: Recently I was late to work because I slept in and my boss was upset about it. But the thing is -- it's really none of his business, is it? What I do on my own time isn't the business of my employer. I don't ask him what he does when he isn't here.
This has happened a few times and I know it might present a problem, but I don't think it's his place to tell me what to do outside of work. How is that legal?
I need the extra sleep in the mornings because I like to stay out late at night, which is my right as an American. If I need extra sleep in order to perform my job at a higher level, then isn't it better for the company that I sleep in? I'm hearing blame when I should be hearing thank you. -- MY BUSINESS IN INDIANA

DEAR MY BUSINESS: Forgive me if this seems harsh, but your boss's business IS his business. Businesses have regular hours of operation, which are usually stated in the employee handbook you should have read when you were being hired. It's the duty of an employee to show up on time and in condition to perform his/her job.
I'm not surprised your boss is upset. It's a natural response when an employee who's relied upon acts irresponsibly, which is what you have been doing. Because you prioritize your social life above your work life, consider looking for a job that starts later or has flexible hours. You may need it.


DEAR ABBY: I am a 17-year-old senior and have been dating the same boy for two years. A month ago, he told me he wanted to break up "because he needed some time to figure out what he wanted." I was devastated but agreed. Two weeks later, he told me he was sorry and he loves me.
We are back together now, but the weekend after our breakup, I went to visit a college girlfriend. We went to a party and I ended up having sex with a boy I didn't even know. I feel guilty and unworthy. What should I do? If I tell my boyfriend, I'm sure I'll lose him for good. If I don't tell him, I'll always worry that he will find out from someone else. -- UNWORTHY IN THE MIDWEST

DEAR UNWORTHY: You are acting like you have something to feel guilty about. You don't. At the time you visited your college girlfriend, your boyfriend had broken things off with you. You do not owe him an explanation or a confession as long as you haven't given him an STD. Contact your physician and be checked to be sure.

General Discussion / Bearded lady
« on: February 26, 2018, 03:53:08 pm »
You just never know what Mother Nature will come up with. I’m not ready to say that animals can be trans, or that higher species of mammals can be hermaphroditic, but this adult lioness is growing a substantial mane & looking like a lion. She’s 18 years old, well beyond adolescence. Maybe she accidentally got dosed with a hormone? Anyway, the zoo people say she doesn’t seem to be bothered by it – not sure how the other lions are taking it.



General Discussion / Earthquake
« on: February 17, 2018, 12:10:03 pm »
I'm seeing news about an earthquake in the U.K., centered in Wales, with a magnitude of 4.4 or maybe 4.9. That's pretty substantial  :o for the British Isles,, not just something caused by a mining operation.

Hope everyone is OK.

Technical Talk / Smells Like Scam
« on: February 04, 2018, 09:23:23 pm »
Just got a message in my spam/scam box titled Re: Partnership. Writer claims to be a “Military Soldier with the United Nations troop on war against terrorism,” asking for any respondents to go in with him on a claim for $8.5 million.

I didn’t open it, but was able to read it by right-clicking on the title in my mailbox & choosing “View Message Source.”

Here it is verbatim, except with the name redacted to protect any innocent person who might have the same name.

Hello. My Name J*** A****** G*****, i am a Military Soldier with the United Nations troop on war against terrorism here in Syria. I seek your partnership in the claim of $8, 500,000.00 US Dollars (Eight Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars) I will give you more information upon your response to this proposal. Kindly respond via my private email address; g****78097@hotmail.com Best Regards, Captain. J*** A****** G*****

If he is a “Military Soldier” or a captain in an actual military force assigned to peacekeeping in Syria, he doesn’t say which one or what country. His English language usage suggests English may not be his first language. He does not say what the claim is for or whom it is against. If it’s legitimate, he doesn’t need co-litigants. The e-mail address given includes the supposed sender’s last name, but with a letter (an important consonant) missing. If 78097 is supposed to be a ZIP Code, it is for Folsom, Louisiana, a village north of Lake Pontchartrain with a population just over 700 and the closest high school 12 miles away. If it has a military installation of any kind, it must be top secret.

So there it is, FWIW. If this claim is legit & he has a righteous claim against anyone, I think he needs a lawyer more than he needs me or anyone else on the list of strangers he is sending this message to. And if it isn’t, I hope innocent folks don’t even open it, & maybe get scammed or expose themselves to identity theft or other problems.

Technical Talk / Scam Likely
« on: January 18, 2018, 07:04:31 pm »
Have other people been experiencing this? In the last couple months, I’ve had a number of calls come to my cell phone, sometimes ringing the full 8 times but usually only a couple of times before cutting off, & the Caller ID says Scam Likely. These are from all over, different area codes in different states.

I've run a few through internet number checks & some showed numerous inquiries, obviously meaning they were robo-calling everyone in America.

Is this something carriers are doing to try to help users?

Related sidebar. In the Olden Days when I was first in law enforcement, & there was no such thing as a cell phone & everyone had a land line, we had a big gray book by Haines that listed phone numbers with the subscriber & address, which we called the Reverse Directory. How handy that was, back in ancient times. Just like the green monthly publication called the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature - anyone remember that?

News of the Church / President Monson has earned his rest
« on: January 03, 2018, 06:48:52 am »
President Monson passed on Tuesday night at home at age 90.

We will remember him for his tireless work as God's servant, a minister to all in spiritual or temporal need, and the face of the Church to millions of people around the world. He  truly lost himself in the service of the Lord and his brothers and sisters. I am sure that as he crossed over, he was comforted by hearing "Well done, thou good and faithful servant; welcome home."

News of the Church / Leave those folks alone
« on: December 21, 2017, 07:18:09 pm »
Here we go again.

It seems some Church members can't be reminded often enough about the Church policy on proxy baptism of Holocaust victims or prominent people/their ancestors. Only a small number slipped through the cracks, but one is still a violation of Church policy & one is enough to draw attention from anti's who leap at any chance to trash the Church. (I didn't look at the reader forum, but this is a San Francisco media source & the area is full of bashers of traditional Judeao-Christian religion & values, so I'm sure they're enjoying themselves there).


Doctrines & Scholarship / Chick-Fila-A opens on Sunday!!!
« on: December 19, 2017, 09:30:00 pm »
Look what has become a big deal in some media accounts.  :D

Chick-Fil-A outlets are closed on Sundays, because the owners are Christian & believe their employees (of whatever religion) should have a day off just for rest & family life. And it’s been all over the media about how they responded when the mayor of Atlanta called last Sunday when all the electricity went out at the huge, busy airport, & the company sent employees to prepare food for thousands of stranded travelers.


This is another case of how some people zero in on one aspect of Christian belief or practice & miss or ignore the rest, whether from honest misunderstanding or an attempt to trap Christians the way the Pharisees tried to do. I like to think most people simply don’t totally understand how the higher law has fulfilled the law of Moses & made us responsible for using our agency & the guidance of the Spirit in matters that aren’t necessarily “black or white.”

The Lord said it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath (it’s one of our 25 #LighttheWorld themes) & the Sabbath was made for man, not the reverse. IOW, the Sabbath was given to us as a blessing from God & not meant to be a burden. Christ healed the sick, & He & the apostles picked corn (or wheat, pistachios, figs, whatever it was that grew in the Mediterranean) to eat on the Sabbath. He taught that the higher law makes it clear that taking care of people (or rescuing your critters from the mire) takes priority even if it may not match the exact letter of the law.

News of the Church / NorCal Regional Conf on Religious Freedom
« on: October 29, 2017, 02:51:55 am »
The 62 stakes of Northern California attended a regional conference tonight on religious freedom. It was in Sacramento, at the stake center next to the temple, & was broadcast to the rest of us. Local Church members attended & several speakers alluded to guests of other faiths or from government. I’m not sure if other regions will also get something like this.

Elder Rasband presided & spoke. We also heard from Elder Von Keetch of the Seventy, Elder Lance Wickman (the Church’s general counsel), & Sister Joy Jones of Primary. Elder Carl B. Cook of the Seventy was also present. (These leaders had also earlier visited wildfire victims in the North Bay & several alluded to it, & to lessons we can learn from disasters that may apply to life as a whole).

We saw a video with some history & context about religious liberty, & presentation by two constitutional law attorneys with California roots (both LDS) about how ordinary people can find ways to be involved in protecting religious freedom & answer tough questions in a gospel-friendly way.

I’m about to go toes up, but I’ll come back & tell more about it later (tomorrow or early in the week). I posted this now mainly to commit myself, so I’ll have to come back & finish what I started. ;)

Doctrines & Scholarship / Can humans sweat blood?
« on: October 24, 2017, 01:32:46 am »
Can human beings actually release blood through their pores?

In KJV Luke 22, the language seems a bit ambiguous about whether Christ actually sweated blood; it could also be interpreted to be merely a comparison: “... sweat was as it were great drops of blood…” The New King James Version says “became like great drops of blood…” The New International Version says “like drops of blood falling to the ground.” The Douay-Rheims Bible used by Catholics says “became as drops of blood…” The wording in all of them is that of a simile & doesn’t explicitly say He did sweat blood. The Revised Standard Version seems not to mention this detail at all.

Only D&C 19 uses language that definitely says His agony was so great that He bled from every pore.

Doubters might ask how Joseph Smith could know such a detail when so many Bible versions are fuzzy about the language, & they might also wonder if this is physiologically possible. Well, aside from the matter of ongoing revelation, it is possible. It even has a scientific name, hematohidrosis. I just read about a recent case in Italy that indicates it does happen, albeit rarely, with this patient experiencing it during heavy emotional stress. This certainly is consistent with the D&C record of what Joseph had revealed to him about Gethsemane.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/health/blood-cmaj-health-hematohidrosis-disease-1.4365126 (contains photos that may be disturbing to some people).


Book Club / "Mockingbird" shot down
« on: October 14, 2017, 05:54:08 pm »
I actually think this is more of a "Current Event" topic than a "Book Club" one, but I'll follow the rules & start it here. But it is not really about the book itself.

We live in an era when microaggression has become a major issue, professors & students must analyze every word before saying something that could cause psychic injury to a classmate, workplace HR directors write policies & memos about every possible way someone could be offended, & the overwhelming objective in any public action or statement (outside the political arena, anyway) is to avoid causing offense. Here is encouraging news for people who are afraid of having young people exposed to things that make them uncomfortable. To Kill A Mockingbird, a modern American classic, has been pulled from a Mississippi school district’s 8th grade curriculum. The reason given: it “makes people uncomfortable.”


Yes, it is a disturbing story of a time in our country when things happened that still burn our national conscience today. In many ways & for many reasons, the U.S. is a more complicated country today in the matter of race relations. Some of the issues the novel confronts are still not resolved to the satisfaction of anyone or any group represented in the story. Are 8th graders too young to learn about bigotry, justice delayed or denied, & the unspeakable atrocities of rape & lynching? Are their ears & minds too fragile to withstand the n-word without being cushioned by asterisks? In the world we live in, is it safe to presume most 8th graders are not new to any of those?

Other questions worth considering: if people are to regard themselves as educated, doesn’t that require being uncomfortable sometimes? How can anyone learn if they never see or hear anything outside their experience, personal or family belief system, or comfort level?

Is age 13 or 14 too soon for kids to start learning that the world is not entirely as it should be, that it has things in it that need changing, that not everyone in it is good & honorable & it needs more people who are, & the more they learn about it & everyone & everything in it, the better equipped they will be to make it the kind of place it should be?

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