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Covid-19 / Re: COVID-19
« on: Today at 09:00:52 am »
every time I find that multiple time slots have opened up, they are filled before I can finish clicking on it.

That's exactly what my experience has been. Every Monday at 8:00 p.m., the state emails the appointment schedule for the upcoming week, based on vaccine availability. For the last two weeks, every appointment slot has been filled within three minutes. I sat at my computer last night starting at 7:45 and clicked the email refresh every three seconds. When the schedule appeared, it was already half filled. I immediately forwarded it to my staff, then I registered. Every slot was filled within five minutes.
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Covid-19 / Re: COVID-19
« on: January 25, 2021, 10:29:13 pm »
I'm scheduled to get my vaccine on Wednesday afternoon. I tried for Friday, but the only thing available was in Salt Lake City, which is 70 miles away. Wednesday's appointment is much closer. I guess I'll take Thursday off work, if needed. It's the Moderna vaccine, so I'll have the second shot 28 days later.
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Covid-19 / Re: COVID-19
« on: January 23, 2021, 08:53:44 pm »
shutting down the schools was likely the wrong decision.
I understand that children can spread the virus even if they don't have symptoms. And even though children-to-children spread is super low, children can take the virus home and spread it to grownups who are at higher risk. That said, here's my one data point. When school began in August, my school offered two instructional programs: Students could attend full-time in person, or students could attend full-time online. About a fourth of our student population chose online. Through the first semester, the amount of positive cases with our online students was five times higher than in-person students, and that's with only one-fourth of the population. My conclusion is that students in school followed strict protocols which included face coverings, social distancing, small cohort groups, frequent sanitizing, good ventilation, outdoors as much as possible, etc. Kids at home likely didn't take the same precautions. The data for my particular school showed that kids were safer in school.
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Covid-19 / Re: COVID-19
« on: January 22, 2021, 11:36:24 pm »
Having been in public education for 15 years, my observation is that a minority of teachers are young and healthy. The majority of teachers have some kind of comorbidity that places them at higher risk.

If teachers won't go back to teaching in person full time because they're scared of the Coronavirus, then kids can't go to school and have to learn online. If younger kids can't go to school, then somebody has to watch them. Maybe that's a parent who can't work because they have to stay home with their kids. Maybe it's a childcare provider, and that money comes out of the family's budget. Maybe it's grandparents, who are in the high risk category. It's primarily an economic argument. Like it or not, public schools provide a "state-funded daycare" function for a lot of families, so that they can work. In Salt Lake City, parents have launched a class-action lawsuit against the school district to get their kids back to in-person school full time. 

I'm not saying that I agree with the rationale for teachers getting to jump ahead in the vaccination line. I'm saying that it's a much more complex issue than teachers unions getting preferential treatment. In Utah, where there are no teachers unions, the push for teachers getting vaccinated as soon as possible is coming from parents and from our very Republican/conservative elected officials.
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Politics / Re: A Modest Prediction
« on: January 21, 2021, 01:29:11 pm »
I, too, was moved at times. We watched it as a family after dinner last night. It was good to talk with my children about the inauguration process, and that it's the same oath no matter who won the election. I was in awe during the poem--the language, the artistry, the imagery--it was indescribable.
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Politics / Re: A Modest Prediction
« on: January 20, 2021, 11:31:48 pm »
Okay, time to go back and evaluate my "modest prediction" from eight months ago.

May-June: President Trump will start ratcheting up the rhetoric (already started by his base) that all of the Bad Things associated with the response to Coronavirus are the fault of a Democratically controlled House of Representatives (Nancy Pelosi in particular). At the same time, he will take credit for all of the Good Things which have happened, like CARES and other stimulus and aid packages. He will make sure to heap praise on the front line medical responders, truck drivers, etc. which will further focus attention on his campaign.

Didn't really play out like that. Rather than blaming Democrats, Trump continued to downplay the seriousness of the pandemic.

July-August: President Trump will start actively promoting the idea that changing the most important leadership in the world, during a continuing worldwide crisis, is a Bad Idea. He will make sure to emphasize his own business and financial savvy while portraying Joe Biden as embarrassingly unqualified to lead the country during a financial crisis.

Didn't really play out like that. Trump mostly resorted to name-calling, rage-tweeting, and repeating stories which were false.

November: Donald Trump will lose the election by a slim margin. He will immediately launch legal challenges which will drag on for months.

Well, it was more than a slim margin. Spot on about the legal challenges, but anyone could see that coming.

December: Justice Kavanaugh, who has been a staunch supporter of executive power, will make very supportive arguments for keeping Trump in power until "everything gets resolved."

Absolutely missed this one. SCOTUS stayed out of it, thankfully.

January: Donald Trump will refuse to vacate the Oval Office. A divided Supreme Court, and, of course, his fanatically loyal base, will support him. The country will be thrown into a Constitutional crisis to compliment the worldwide financial crisis and the lingering effects of a global pandemic.

Absolutely missed this one as well. Again, thankful that SCOTUS didn't have to get involved.

And this prediction in October

This is going to be ugly. It's likely to turn violent. For 244 years, America has set the standard for open and democratic elections. We're going to be a third world country, this time.

turned out to be sadly accurate.


Some things turned out worse than I imagined and other things turned out much better. In the end, the inauguration happened as it should have.

The takeaway: I'm not very good at political predictions. At all. Flipping a coin would have been more accurate. Probably shouldn't quit my job to become a political pundit.
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General Discussion / Re: Y'all want a bunch of new members?
« on: January 20, 2021, 11:11:41 pm »
I welcome anyone who abides by our charter. What do other members think?
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Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: masks in church
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:34:15 pm »
Jana said, "Thus I go without and attend to my solitary needs in other ways.  That is one reason why Nauvoo has been so important."

Laurie said, "This is why Nauvoo is so important to me as well."

Thank you for that.

After what happened at the U.S. capitol last week, I've been thinking that there are far better things for me to do here in Nauvoo than adding more fuel to the fire.
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Politics / Re: Current Events - US Politics Edition
« on: January 12, 2021, 07:27:15 pm »
That was my understanding, as well.
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Politics / Re: Current Events - US Politics Edition
« on: January 11, 2021, 08:13:37 am »
I think a lot of people are scared that President Trump will order the military to keep him in the Oval Office after January 20. We've got nine more days. Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and back down.

For the record: Congress has broad power when it comes to the military. Congress has the constitutional authority to declare war, to structure the military, to regulate the chain of command, and to assign duties and offices. The military is not under the sole purview of the Commander in Chief.
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Politics / Re: Current Events - US Politics Edition
« on: January 09, 2021, 03:53:56 pm »
If you listen to his language over these past few years, it's the language of religion. I think Donald Trump has come to fancy himself as a Messiah figure, and to consider his faithful supporters as disciples. From the outside, it's the Emperor's New Clothes story written in American politics. For the believers, he's the Chosen One.
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Politics / Re: Current Events - US Politics Edition
« on: January 09, 2021, 09:39:16 am »
A Cherokee legend:

A little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me, and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.

They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.

He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."
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Politics / Re: Current Events - US Politics Edition
« on: January 06, 2021, 10:45:41 pm »
It was good to hear elected officials from both parties condemn the violence.
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Crafts / Card Making
« on: January 05, 2021, 10:29:58 pm »
My wife, Michelle, makes greeting cards. We received a Christmas card from the Netherlands (thanks Jana!) As soon as Michelle saw the card she said, "Oooh. That's really good. Do you know how long it takes to cut out all those little pieces and position them?" Sam was reading over my shoulder and said, "I miss Oma!" So, You have a card making colleague from across the pond, Jana!
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Health and Wellness / Re: New Years Resolutions
« on: December 31, 2020, 06:53:49 pm »
I watched it with my wife. Those are great ideas! Thanks for sharing the link, Palmon.
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