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News of the Church / Re: NorCal Regional Conf on Religious Freedom
« on: November 05, 2017, 02:23:50 pm »
Curelom, thank you for taking the time and effort to write that out.
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News of the Church / Re: NorCal Regional Conf on Religious Freedom
« on: October 31, 2017, 02:49:55 pm »
My wife, one of my sons and I attended in person at the Mormon Center.  It was very well done, and a lot of good information was provided for those that don't follow issues like this closely.  I particularly liked the talk by Elder Wickman as he elaborated on the spectrum of religious rights, noting that compromise is necessary when rights conflict.  I was also pleased that several speakers emphasized the importance of becoming friends of people of other faiths and to stand up for their rights as strongly as our own.

There were several non lds faith leaders in attendance, and I noted that well known non lds specific hymns were selected. 

Maintaining religious freedom has always been a struggle, but the challenge now is that it is being attacked on two sides.  On one side are the radical athiests aligned with the extreme wings of the Democratic party, who want to eradicate religion.  On the other end are the religious extremists, such as the Wahhabis and Roy Moore evangelical Republicans, who want to privilege their religion above all others.

I'm pleased the church has been distancing itself from the evangelicals and is working more closely with mainline protestants, catholics, mainstream Muslims and other minority religions.   I'm also hopeful the rank and file saints step up and start being more respectful of others faiths.
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Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Can humans sweat blood?
« on: October 25, 2017, 10:28:27 am »
Doubters might ask how Joseph Smith could know such a detail when so many Bible versions are fuzzy about the language

The bloody sweat of Jesus is also a part of longstanding Catholic Tradition concerning the Agony of Christ. In fact, a 5-second cursory search on Google Books brings up this book from 1832 featuring an author affirming his belief in the literal nature of the bloody sweat.

This doesn't discount in the least Joseph's prophetic gifts. The most impressive thing about what Joseph did was often not to introduce brand new ideas, but connect (or 'gather') and present pre-existing concepts in ways either not previously done before, or in ways that hadn't been done in present memory. He was always learning, questioning, and getting new answers. The Church was sort of set up as a clearinghouse for the gathering, sorting, and winnowing of Truth.

One thing that's inspiring to me, is that, just as often as not, Joseph's questions or assumptions seem to have been based on a misreading of scripture, or off a poor translation - but God still gives him new insights anyway, because the questions that were prompted were still absolutely valid, and God went with that to help him go further, and paint a wider picture. Whatever level of knowledge or context you come to when reading the scriptures, what matters most are the questions that come from that reading, and the answers God can provide. That's inspiring and humbling to me.

Sometimes Joseph was corrected with his misunderstanding. Sometime that wasn't the point, and the new idea gained was more important than saying, "Well, actually, Paul wasn't making a reference to that idea at all, but your question is still a good one, so let's put that aside, and talk about your question!"

Joseph didn't need to have an idea revealed out of nowhere for him to have been inspired to do more with it than had been done before. And that's where I find a great amount of Joseph's prophetic ministry at work. Continuing to ask questions of assumptions, look for the practical application, push forward, learn, ask more questions, rinse and repeat.
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Doctrines & Scholarship / Re: Can humans sweat blood?
« on: October 25, 2017, 06:14:42 am »
Thanks for this, very interesting. Not something I ever doubted though. I can imagine that there are bodily responses to situations we do not know that we can not understand.

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Yeah I'm nowhere near the current fires (which are awful.)
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So, have we done a roll call on everyone that are in the line of fire (literally)  and the hurricanes?  I understand that KQ is doing well.
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General Conference / Re: The Family, A Proclamation to the World
« on: October 08, 2017, 01:30:55 am »
The Family is meant to be eternal.  Relationships and roles are not just for the here and now.  What we battle now in mortal temptations and imperfections will not survive through the resurrection.  God's guidance in this life through the leaders of His church is meant to get us not only through the here and now but prepared for what is beyond.  I think way too many are concerned about what gives happiness now but not what will carry through to the other side.  This mortal existence is a mere speck in our eternal existence.
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General Discussion / Re: The Feel-Good Thread
« on: October 04, 2017, 07:04:30 pm »
OK, so here is a multi-part personal event of both miracles and goodness in humanity and even the occasional corporation.

Nearly a month ago we ordered a bagger we could scarcely afford for our riding mower.  It was expensive, but it was the only one that worked with the mower and we are getting desperate.  Financed it on the Home Depot card, and a few days later we got a notice that it was ready to be picked up by the shipper and should be delivered around the 13th.
In Georgia.  Right before the hurricane.
A day or two later we got a notice that the estimated delivery was changed to the 17th, but then the updates stopped.  The status then hung in limbo, saying 'ready to be picked up by shipper' for the next 2.5 weeks.  So last Thursday I called Home Depot.  I told them I wasn't mad, because I figured it was the hurricane that messed things up, but we really needed the bagger, and could they check on it?  The guy on the phone was awesome.  No excuses, no hemming or hawing, he just opened an ETA case (basically an investigation to find it) and credited me $75 without me even complaining.  Then Monday another Home Depot rep called me back and explained that they had finished their investigation, and they couldn't find the bagger.  It had been ready to go, then hurricane, and they couldn't find it and now they were out of stock and were we in a hurry?  I said yes, we needed it quite a lot, so she told me that since the item was lost and they were out of stock, they were cancelling the order and refunding my money, and then giving us a gift certificate for the full price of the mower so we could buy it again when it came back in stock.
I was so blown away that it took me a few times of repeating her back to fully comprehend it.  You mean, just because it was late due to a natural disaster not your fault, you are not only returning our money, but basically paying us another $350 to buy it?!  Yes, that's what they did.
And then this morning I got a notice it was back in stock, so I took that gift certificate and bought the bagger, paying only the $20 in sales tax.
I am blown away.  God knew how much we needed that money.  Home Depot didn't.  But God works through good people.
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General Discussion / Re: The Feel-Good Thread
« on: October 02, 2017, 08:08:45 pm »
I’m not sure about the rest of the Nauvoodles, but it made me feel good to watch the new season of Poldark last night. Prior to the first episode of the new season, there was an hourlong program called “Revealing Poldark” which pretty much brought the viewer up to date on the previous two seasons.

I am a happy camper.
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General Discussion / Re: Funny things kids say
« on: September 22, 2017, 09:18:29 am »
My niece is a new teacher this year.  There was a hailstorm which frightened one of her second grade students.  The next day, the boy announced to the class, "When Jesus comes again, there won't be any more hail or earthquakes or volcanoes.  There won't even be school."  I guess school belongs in the same category as natural disasters.  ;D
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Forum and Member News / Re: Thousand Year Egg Awards
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:13:44 am »
O_o Already? What? Wow! Also, congrats!!!!
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General Discussion / Re: The Feel-Good Thread
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:49:28 pm »
When I took my fifth graders outside for recess today, one of the girls shivered and said, "I feel really cold." The girl standing right next to her said, "I feel really amazing. It's because I have a hoodie." What a great outlook on a cloudy and windy day.
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General Discussion / Re: The Feel-Good Thread
« on: September 05, 2017, 12:35:30 pm »
BLT for breakfast, most of my patients cancelled their appointments this week, the days are starting to get shorter & cooler, and I have a 4 layer fudge cake in the kitchen. 

So often, it's the little things. :)
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Mormon Life / Re: PRAYER LIST
« on: September 05, 2017, 10:02:00 am »
Once again, the sincere prayer of far off brothers and sister have reached the ears of the Lord. How grateful I am for the power of prayer and that I can ask and people respond.  I am far better today. As I get older it takes me a little more time to reset than it used to.  I am like one of those bop em blow up clowns from the last generation where you gave them a punch and they'd roll right back up. Well, I have lost a little air and it takes abit longer.

Himself and I had a good conversation about our new family circumstance and although we are not totally in step, we are a team and are facing this challenge together.

My anxiety attack has passed.  Not throwing in the towel  today :)
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General Discussion / Re: Current Events
« on: September 04, 2017, 01:06:27 am »
It might be worth going ahead and locking it now so there is no additional discussion, and then delete it at a later date, should you so choose.
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